Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Wait (M83 song) (3rd nomination)


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The result was no consensus. (non-admin closure) Baby miss fortune 03:05, 6 December 2017 (UTC)

Wait (M83 song)
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Article is virtually identical to the version from the last deletion discussion, which resulted in a redirect. Only change is a chart position, however the chart quoted in the article only officially goes up to 150, and the source found says that this song charted at 154 (and does not name what chart this was from). Fails WP:GNG, the song is mentioned in passing by most sources either as part of the artists' or directors' greater body of work. PGWG (talk) 19:21, 14 November 2017 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Music-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 19:25, 14 November 2017 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Albums and songs-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 19:25, 14 November 2017 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Comment: I'd forgotten I'd voted on a previous AfD for this song. The chart position comes from Hung Medien's lescharts.com website but I'm not entirely clear how these charts are generated. Richard3120 (talk) 23:31, 19 November 2017 (UTC)
 * The problem is that I can't see on that website specifically what chart it is quoting, other than it being a French chart. I'm not at all familiar with the professional music industry in France, so I have no clue if there is only the one (SNEP) chart in France, or if there are multiple charts that it could be referring to. PGWG (talk) 15:08, 21 November 2017 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America1000 06:02, 21 November 2017 (UTC) the lescharts.com website is part of the group of national chart archives supplied by the Hung Medien group, which have been deemed reliable sources for use on Wikipedia. The lescharts are essentially the SNEP charts – the lescharts website does credit SNEP and IFOP for supplying the data, and the SNEP charts actually do go up to 200, not 150. However, it has been noted that there are slight discrepancies between the SNEP charts and the lescharts positions, and it's not entirely clear why this is. But lescharts is effectively an archive of the official French chart. Richard3120 (talk) 01:46, 23 November 2017 (UTC)


 * Interesting. I had taken my official chart position numbers from our article on SNEP, which says that the official charts are the top 100 singles, 150 albums sold at full price, 40 compilations sold at full price, and 40 albums/compilations sold at mid- or budget price.  I'm guessing that this article is possibly out of date, then, if the official chart actually goes up to 200 places.  Nevertheless, even with one week on the national chart, I don't think the coverage is significant enough that the song meets the GNG. PGWG (talk) 03:57, 23 November 2017 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,  Sandstein   12:35, 28 November 2017 (UTC)


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