Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Wako-Pro World Grand Prix 2011: Romania vs Italy


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The result was   no consensus. v/r - TP 15:25, 26 July 2011 (UTC)

Wako-Pro World Grand Prix 2011: Romania vs Italy

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Following on from Articles for deletion/SuperKombat World Grand Prix I and Articles for deletion/SuperKombat World Grand Prix II this is also not notable as it lacks significant coverage in third party reiliable sources thus failing WP:GNG. Mtking (talk) 03:29, 12 July 2011 (UTC) Mtking (talk) 03:29, 12 July 2011 (UTC)
 * Strong delete clearly fails WP:GNG. LibStar (talk) 07:02, 12 July 2011 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Martial arts-related deletion discussions.  — Osubuckeyeguy (talk) 15:38, 12 July 2011 (UTC)


 * Strong keep Co-promotion between two highly notable promotions. Also featured a world title fight. -- WölffReik (talk) 15:03, 18 July 2011 (UTC)
 * notable fighters does not meet automatic notability. please provide evidence of third party sources to meet WP:GNG. they are not world title fights. strong keep would require a lot of sources. LibStar (talk) 14:25, 18 July 2011 (UTC)


 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Ron Ritzman (talk) 00:03, 19 July 2011 (UTC)


 * Weak Keep This article clearly needs improvement. However, the event did feature a WAKO world title fight and does have some weak sourcing.  Needing improvement is not grounds for deletion. Papaursa (talk) 00:31, 23 July 2011 (UTC)
 * "does have some weak sourcing" It has no sourcing to reliable sources that are independent of the promoter, it has one to www.headkicklegend.com, which is in reality a link to a video and a copy of the results. There is zip all that is in any way significant coverage. Mt  king  (edits)  01:57, 23 July 2011 (UTC)
 * SuperKombat was the promoter and the source given is WAKO--confirming there was a world title fight. Therefore, I'd say that source is both independent of the promoter and reliable (who better to confirm a WAKO title fight?). At least, that's how I see it.  Yes, you could argue they're not independent since the promoter probably paid a sanctioning fee for the fight but that's SOP for all fighting events. Papaursa (talk) 03:31, 23 July 2011 (UTC)
 * we are talking about sources proving notability, how can WAKO be used to advance the notability of a WAKO sanctioned event ? It can't. I say again that there are no independent sources that can attest to the notability of this event. Mt  king  (edits)  03:39, 23 July 2011 (UTC)
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