Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Waldo's Chicken and Beer


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The result was delete‎ __EXPECTED_UNCONNECTED_PAGE__. czar 00:42, 24 April 2023 (UTC)

Waldo's Chicken and Beer

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non-notable business. Citations are for a location's opening and local celebrities picking their favorite restaurant. Routines business happenings, nothing for GNG or NCORP. Oaktree b (talk) 00:10, 3 April 2023 (UTC)


 * Keep - I'm also open to merging with another article, however, I'm not sure which. Consider the following sources for WP:NCORP:
 * https://www.wkrn.com/local-on-2/waldos-chicken-beer-rotisserie-scratch-salad-recipe/
 * https://williamsonsource.com/waldos-chicken-beer-in-franklin-is-celebrating-its-2nd-birthday-with-week-long-food-deals/
 * https://www.arkansasonline.com/news/2022/apr/21/kickin-chicken/
 * Granted, these are not NYTIMES, but they still pass WP:GNG / WP:NCORP, as they're not a opening/closing, nor passing mentions. Kcmastrpc (talk) 00:23, 3 April 2023 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ✗  plicit  00:30, 10 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Food and drink, Companies,  and Tennessee.  Spiderone (Talk to Spider) 08:15, 3 April 2023 (UTC)
 * delete appears promotional and non-notable. Andre🚐 19:20, 7 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Interesting that you came here immediately after reverting my edits on other pages. Just thought the closing editor should be aware. Have a great day! Kcmastrpc (talk) 22:44, 7 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete - This is the only reference that comes close to WP:ORGCRIT and it still falls short as it is local coverage. The rest are press release reprints, brief mentions, or routine announcements.--CNMall41 (talk) 07:32, 8 April 2023 (UTC)
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.


 * Keep - Meets GNG.KatoKungLee (talk) 20:42, 10 April 2023 (UTC)
 * , can you point out the specific references that meet WP:ORGCRIT?--CNMall41 (talk) 21:06, 10 April 2023 (UTC)


 * Delete WKRN source is a complete puff piece, clearly either paid or sloppily generated from a press release: Looking for a great Nashville restaurant with delicious home cooking including chicken? Waldo’s Chicken & Beer is one of our favorite places and top picks for you! Waldo’s started in Nashville’s Germantown neighborhood and now have a total of four locations throughout Nashville and Franklin. “Everything from our white beans coleslaw, mac and cheese… Everything we make is made in house, every day,” said Culinary Director Leigh Kingsbery on Local On 2. Kingsbery works on anything from crafting the menu and creating recipes to designing kitchens. And Waldo’s is not only a great place for chicken, but fun and delicious dishes perfect for game days and enjoying a local beer. Check out their signature Rotisserie Scratch Salad recipe below to try out at home or stop by one of their locations to order today! Plus not really sig cov. Williamson Source, clearly generated from a press release; no newspaper keeps track of a restaurant's "second birthday". Arkansas Online is sigcov, likely independent, RS. That's one. Valereee (talk) 17:23, 11 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Hi Valereee, thank you for taking the time to review. I did another search and found a couple more reviews that I believe might pass WP:RS. Any thoughts on these?
 * - https://tulsaworld.com/entertainment/review-bird-is-the-word-at-waldos-chicken-beer/article_c53e4cf8-7e05-11eb-9bda-6f312ef56865.html
 * - https://aymag.com/waldos-chicken-and-beer-finds-the-flavor/
 * These don't appear promotional and seem independent. I welcome your insight. Kcmastrpc (talk) 17:33, 11 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Hey, Kc, hm... About You Magazine lists their six account executives above their four editors...I'm a little leery this is paid content. A lot of these 'lifestyle' mags are. Tulsa World is unfortunately behind a paywall for me...it could be sigcov, but it's a little iffy if this coverage was basically a "what's just opened here" announcement. My feeling is that we need more than that, as that'll be true of any chain that opens in a new city and has a PR firm. If it is really a full, in-person review, I'd at least consider it a maybe, I guess? What I'd really like to see is something in a town two hours away that doesn't have one of these that is saying, "Hey, Waldo's...worth the trip to Tulsa, or at least worth a stop when you're dropping the filial unit at UT" or whatever. Valereee (talk) 18:10, 11 April 2023 (UTC)
 * I went ahead and signed up, and I believe it might meet WP:SIGCOV based on my initial reading. I'm happy to share a PDF of it, however, I want to respect their copyright concerns so I'd rather not post it publicly. Is there a way I could privately share this with you? Kcmastrpc (talk) 18:21, 11 April 2023 (UTC)
 * You can email it to me, email's enabled on my user. FWIW, I just noticed this chain opened in 2019. That's worth considering because very few restaurant chains become notable that quickly, and the ones that do tend to get national coverage. Valereee (talk) 18:51, 11 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Just FYI, see WP:RESTAURANTREVIEWS. The About You review by Jenny Boulden contains nothing about the company and reviews a single meal. The publication (About You magazine) does not appear to be particularly notable (neither it nor the parent "company" have a wikipedia article). Looking at RESTAURANTREVIEWS, it fails as it isn't a significant review as it does not provide "broader context". It also appears to have been published in the "blog" section of the website which would raise a question mark over whether it met editorial guidelines - for example, compare the same writer's article on Murray's Restaurant where the byline identifies the publication as "Magazine" and not "Blog".  HighKing++ 17:23, 18 April 2023 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 04:49, 17 April 2023 (UTC)
 * AYM lists editors, but I do not see editorial standards listed. TW is still more local. Of course this chain will get local press in places it opens a new location. That is part of your every day run of the mill press. The media on a larger scale has not taken notice of the chain. Maybe when they get to a level of having hundreds of locations there will be significant coverage, but everything listed and what I can find fails WP:ORGCRIT (especially since most are routine announcements). CNMall41 (talk) 20:42, 11 April 2023 (UTC)
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.


 * Delete This is a company/restaurant therefore GNG/NCORP guidelines apply. I am not seeing any significant reviews (see WP:RESTAURANTREVIEWS) and the ones mentioned above are either local or not significant.  HighKing++ 17:23, 18 April 2023 (UTC)


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