Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Wali (sniper)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was redirect to International Legion of Territorial Defense of Ukraine. (non-admin closure) Natg 19 (talk) 01:40, 7 April 2022 (UTC)

Wali (sniper)

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This page has been proposed for deletion due to failing WP:N.

1.) A vast majority of the media articles are based two acts 1 - he joined the Ukrainian armed forces in their fight against Russia and 2 - debunking their supposed death. Thus, I believe this violates WP:NBASIC

2.) This person does not appear to be a part of the enduring historical record per Wikipedia requirements, nor are there any well-known or significant awards known which both violate WP:ANYBIO

KD0710 (talk) 13:51, 31 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Military and Canada. Shellwood (talk) 14:01, 31 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Redirect to International Legion of Territorial Defense of Ukraine, where the individual is sufficiently covered. All of his coverage is within the context of one event—his participation in the Russo-Ukrainian war. The viral fake news story itself would fail WP:NEVENT, since viral phenomena... are usually not notable unless something further gives them additional enduring significance. It's not strictly a WP:BLP1E, but he's probably best covered in the context of the international legion a-la-WP:PAGEDECIDE. There is little known about the individual except that he's in the legion and didn't die, so he's best covered in the context on the page on the Legion. Since he's already sufficiently covered there, I see no need for an independent page. — Mhawk10 (talk) 17:56, 31 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Weak redirect to International Legion of Territorial Defense of Ukraine. While I agree with in that there's a certain je ne sais quoi which leads me towards the same conclusion, calling the Russo-Ukranian War a "single event" seems to be stretching the definition and would lead to counter-intuitive (at least to me) results if applied to various other military figures in the extreme ("World War 2 is a single event" as a reductio ad absurdum). Similarly, while WP:NEVENT would be clearly relevant for an article entitled "Death of Wali" or something along those lines, I'm not aware of policy language stating that the events in the context of WP:BLP1E should be notable in isolation. All that said, I think this falls into the vaguely defined category of pages that fit WP:NOPAGE, and it's better to discuss the topic in the context of a larger page. Perhaps some day we'll have proper biographies etc. that would give material for a larger article, but I don't think that day is now. The !vote is weak because I'm not able to point out an applicable bright-line rule. -Ljleppan (talk) 07:33, 1 April 2022 (UTC)
 * To clarify, my point in bringing up WP:NEVENT was to rule out an alternative in which we eventify the article. The guideline is not directly applicable to a BLP. — Mhawk10 (talk) 14:39, 1 April 2022 (UTC)


 * Redirect to International Legion of Territorial Defense of Ukraine seems to be a reasonable action based on the above reasonings. The lack of information outside of this event, and honestly including this event, does not seem to meet the level of need to have an entire page devoted to the individual, when a redirect would suffice. KD0710 (talk) 14:43, 1 April 2022 (UTC)


 * Merge to International Legion of Territorial Defense of Ukraine. &mdash; The Anome (talk) 21:38, 1 April 2022 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.