Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Walking like an Egyptian (2nd nomination)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.  

The result was delete. — Kurykh  19:05, 31 July 2007 (UTC)

Walking like an Egyptian
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Delete - there do not appear to be reliable sources that pre-date the Bangles song that identify this posturing as "walking like an Egyptian." The article is largely a collection of instances of people or fictional characters striking the poses making the movements which, decades later following the Bangles song, became known as "walking like an Egyptian." Sources indicate that this was initially known as the "Egyptian sand dance." There are sources using the name "Egyptian sand dance" which I have not reviewed extensively to see if they are reliable. If so then an article can be written about it or the existing article on Wilson, Keppel and Betty (the performers of the sand dance) can be expanded. But as this article stands it does not pass WP:V. Additionally, the "so and so struck a pose" content amounts to an "in popular culture" section which, in addition to being unreferenced, is trivia. Otto4711 17:12, 24 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete. Can anyone possibly tell me how this subject is encyclopedic? Anyone? Bueller? Realkyhick 18:56, 24 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Weak Delete per WP:NEO as lacking "reliable secondary sources such as books and papers about the term—not books and papers that use the term".  Corpx 19:06, 24 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Weak delete as this is more than just a fad or a joke but putting all these things together without secondary sources telling us that they go together falls under synthesis. What this amounts to is something like Egyptian art in popular culture or even Egyptian relief portraiture in popular culture, as presented now. (The "sand dance" is of course quite real and even had a life outside of the Wilson/Keppels.) --Dhartung | Talk 19:14, 24 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Weak Keep. Educational at least -Inventm 19:43, 24 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Recast as an article about Egyptian art in popular culture. If not this remedy, then I don't think it is keepable. ike9898 19:43, 24 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Redirect to Walk like an Egyptian for Search purposes. It's a WP:NEO as per Corpx. Canuckle 21:43, 24 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete WP:NEO, WP:NOT Rackabello 00:46, 25 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Merge with Walk like an Egyptian. Iotha 01:52, 25 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete - I am not sure anything is worth merging into WLaE, but if so go for it. This is trivia at best. --Storm Rider (talk) 05:47, 25 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Merge into WLaE, as per Iotha and Storm. As with the Bangles' song, this is silly stuff that doesn't merit a separate article.  I think this is the equivalent of a minstrel show when it comes to citizens of Egypt. Mandsford 17:29, 25 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Comment - the problem with merging to the song article is that the only part of the article that post-dates the song's existence is ''The gag is used in the opening sequence of the Discovery Kids animated series Tutenstein, and in Burger King's on-line viral marketing campaign The Subservient Chicken. Fashion designer John Galliano appropriated the cliché for the premiere of his Spring-Summer 2004 Haute Couture collection, which involved models in corsets and Egyptian-inspired masks walking like Egyptians down the runway.


 * A modern style of dance, known as "tutting", involves the dancer adopting similar postures in a rapid-fire rhythm accompanying electronic dance music, similar to popping.


 * and in the absence of reliable sources that any of those instances of the posing were inspired by the song the information doesn't belong there. Otto4711 18:59, 25 July 2007 (UTC)


 * Delete I don't think it has improved that much from when I put it up for Afd. Borisblue 22:21, 26 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Keep Regardless of it's relationship to the song, it is a part of (at the least) English-speaking culture. The first time it was nominated for deletion, lots of good reasons for keeping it were listed; they are all still valid.  --Vrmlguy 04:14, 30 July 2007 (UTC)
 * There's still no reliable sources attesting to its notability Corpx 05:15, 30 July 2007 (UTC)


 * Speedy delete. Inappropriate for Wikipedia. — Preceding unsigned comment added by J-stan (talk • contribs)
 * Delete. If anything's worth merging, merge it with Walk like an Egyptian. Bart133 (t) (c) 18:51, 31 July 2007 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.