Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Wall of 1.03 million yen and 1.30 million yen


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   keep. With no one but the nominator supporting immediate deletion, I don't think there's a need to relist this. Closing as a keep for now. Discussion about expansion or merging can continue on the article talk page. Mgm|(talk) 12:33, 15 December 2009 (UTC)

Wall of 1.03 million yen and 1.30 million yen

 * – (View AfD (View log  •  AfD statistics)

Not notable in Japan; certainly not notable outside Japan. armagebedar (talk) 08:14, 7 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Neutral. There is POV issue because it's called controversial without added proof. Also, the title is a monster. But if someone can verify this as true, it might be suitable to merge the bare numbers elsewhere. - Mgm|(talk) 10:55, 7 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep. This is only a some minor tax-related issue in Japan. But it's still an issue. The Google search returns 345,000 hits for "103万円・130万円の壁". I would say that's enough to establish notability. (Of course, the current state of the article is pathetic, but that cannot be a ground for deletion.) -- Taku (talk) 13:07, 7 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Japan-related deletion discussions.  -- • Gene93k (talk) 15:11, 7 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Comment My first thought was "delete" since this is nothing more than a dispute over a section of one nation's tax code, and it will last only until the code is amended to have a different set of numbers for a marital deduction. However, we have no article called Taxation in Japan, and I'd welcome someone translating the ja.wikipedia.org articles, if nothing else.  Mandsford (talk) 15:22, 7 December 2009 (UTC)


 * Comment - I suggest a Taxation in Japan article be created, and this be merged into it. The hard thing is to find someone knowledgeable and dedicated enough to make that article. Maybe one of can help translating from the Japanese Wikipedia, Lord Spongefrog,  (I am Czar of all Russias!)  18:56, 7 December 2009 (UTC)

 Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, NW ( Talk ) 21:47, 14 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Agree with Spongefrog This looks like a paragraph out of a larger article on Taxation in Japan. Mangoe (talk) 18:06, 8 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep the content. Whether the article should be renamed or its scope broadened can be discussed on the talk page, but, even in English, there are plenty of sources that discuss the subject such as . I would add that our notability guidelines have no geographical bias, so notability in Japan counts for just as much as notability anywhere else. Phil Bridger (talk) 18:18, 8 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep or merge. The only good criteria for when an article should be deleted is whether there are enough reliable sources to support it's information. Phil Bridger has clearly shown there are and the sources show that the ceiling affects social and business practices. By the way Phil, please copy those sources to the talk page or if you have a chance, use them to fix the article up. Thanks for finding them. Cleanup can happen later and is unrelated to whether an article merits coverage based on the quality of sources that cover the topic. - Taxman Talk 15:19, 10 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so consensus may be reached.
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.