Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Walnut Creek Middle School (Millcreek, PA)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.  

The result was redirect to Millcreek Township School District. Can&#39;t sleep, clown will eat me 02:34, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

Walnut Creek Middle School (Millcreek, PA)

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Non notable middle school, except for existing. I would have CSD'd or PROD'ed but they likely would have been contested by the author, since they removed an invalid db- tag. Author was told prior to starting article about notability. See. MECU ≈ talk 19:09, 23 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete as failing WP:N and WP:ATT. Mr.Z-man  talk ¢ Review! 20:10, 23 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Keep based on new sources, but remove the following sections: Typical Schedule (completely pointless), Facuily and Staff (Wikipedia is not a directory), and Layout of School (unless it can be sourced and is especially relevant). Mr.Z-man  talk ¢ Review! 19:30, 25 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Schools-related deletions.   -- Noroton 01:29, 24 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Then I suggest you delete Central High School (Erie, Pennsylvania), Harbor Creek School District, William Allen High School, Louis E. Dieruff High School, Emmaus High School, Parkland High School (Allentown, Pennsylvania), and Whitehall High School (Pennsylvania). None of these schools are notable either. you wikipedians can be cruel sometimes. Ttttrrrreeeeyyyyyy 03:33, 24 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Yes, we can be. Keep cool.Noroton 05:40, 24 March 2007 (UTC)
 * The other schools mentioned are all high schools and one school district. This is a middle school. There is a difference (so I'm told) Mr.Z-man  talk ¢ Review! 18:37, 25 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Strong delete and the editor above me should view WP:OTHERCRAPEXISTS. Just because other schools are crap and here just means we haven't got around to deleting them yet &rArr;    SWAT Jester    On Belay!  05:19, 24 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Swatjester, please be civil. Anyone can call anything "crap" including the parts of Wikipedia you like. All we have to do is act like grownups to participate here. Noroton 05:40, 24 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Keep Delete Abstain (see comment below) because it's not a bad article. Noroton 05:40, 24 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Although I try to be open to school articles that are new, I have to admit that Ttttrrrreeeeyyyyyy has convinced me in the deletion discussion for East Middle School that I should probably revise upward my standards, so I favor deletion, at least for this school. I'm just going to withdraw from this one. Noroton 00:46, 26 March 2007 (UTC) (edit with crossed out words and new comment Noroton 21:38, 27 March 2007 (UTC) )
 * The article does demonstrate a commendable lack of snobbery, including the janitor as well as the teachers. But as for the school, it just isn't notable. I admit that some middle schools might be.
 * Delete on this one, though. DGG 08:52, 24 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Did you ever have an article you created up for deletion? It's so much fun when they joke about it. Especially when you're new.Noroton 20:49, 24 March 2007 (UTC)


 * comment Just to show I'm fair, I looked at the other articles mentioned. They are high schools, not middle schools, they almost of them have a significant number of prominent alumni, significant athletic accomplishments, and interesting events in their history--and the articles were very well written. I have a few doubts about 2 of the articles, but I would !vote to keep them all. Allentown seems blessed with good high schools. There are differences between different schools, and if we are going to discuss this intelligently we should pay attention to each individual article. DGG 08:59, 24 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Walnut Creek Middle School in Michigan is not notable.-Ttttrrrreeeeyyyyyy 21:03, 24 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Stewart Middle School (Norristown, Pennsylvania) not notableTtttrrrreeeeyyyyyy 21:21, 24 March 2007 (UTC)
 * The argument that other articles exist that are similar in nature (in this case, a middle school) is not a reason for keeping this article. Just because one university professor is notable and deserves an article doesn't mean all university professors do. If you feel these other articles you are mentioning aren't notable, then nominate them for deletion as well. It is every editor's charge to cleanup and improve Wikipedia. But please, don't do it with the reason "this middle school article got deleted so this one should too." -- MECU ≈ talk 23:24, 24 March 2007 (UTC)


 * Delete per WP:N. There is no consensus at Wikipedia that even high schools are or are not inherently notable, as evidenced by the fact that high school AfDs are closed as "no consensus", "keep" or "delete" on a case by case basis.  I think we can all agree that middle schools are generally less notable than high schools.  Unless and until somebody properly demonstrates that this particular school is notable, this article should be deleted. --Butseriouslyfolks 00:44, 25 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Comment: I'd call it "notable" —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Noroton (talk • contribs).
 * Keep Tom Ridge was there... so it is notable. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Ttttrrrreeeeyyyyyy (talk • contribs).
 * Delete per nom. Fails WP:N. Xarr 14:37, 25 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete. That a notable person attended a particular middle school does not per se make the school notable.   -- John Broughton  (♫♫) 16:45, 25 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Comment I've added to the article. The S.E.W.E.R group received some coverage, particularly from the local newspaper (which doesn't allow free access to its old stories) but from organizations even outside Pennsylvania. Those who have already !voted might want to review the article again. I put the new section up high, but it can be moved. Noroton 19:14, 25 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Comment This school has been very active in the community. I have added more info. IT IS NOTABLE. more notable than some high schools...Ttttrrrreeeeyyyyyy 22:45, 25 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Comment I would suggest removing the following sections: Typical Schedule (completely pointless), Facuily and Staff (Wikipedia is not a directory), and About the School (at least make it sound more relevant ie.get rid of info about lockers, windows, "designed as a middle school") Mr.Z-man  talk ¢ Review! 21:59, 26 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Done --Ttttrrrreeeeyyyyyy 00:16, 26 March 2007 (UTC)


 * Redirect to the Millcreek Township School District page as WP:LOCAL and similar guidelines suggest. Redirects are cheap, use them.  RFerreira 05:40, 29 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Merge and then redirect to the Millcreek Township School District as suggested above, too much data to just perform a straight redirect though. Burntsauce 20:19, 29 March 2007 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.