Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Walnut Valley Sailing Club


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The result was delete. The first keep comment has been refuted without response, and the second argues that there are sources but presents none. &spades;PMC&spades; (talk) 07:54, 6 July 2020 (UTC)

Walnut Valley Sailing Club

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Non-notable club, fails WP:ORG, fails WP:GNG, has been long tagged for failing WP:N. Ahunt (talk) 01:10, 21 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: Notification of the existence of this AfD has been made at WikiProject Sailing, within whose scope this article falls. - Ahunt (talk) 01:17, 21 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Kansas-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 01:30, 21 June 2020 (UTC)


 * Keep: Article about a historic sailing club. The article has reliable secondary sources. It seems sailing clubs are not treated as hockey, baseball or soccer clubs at WP, just because these clubs don't compete in third, fourth ot fifth ranked leages to meet "general notability guidelines".--Banderas (talk) 07:26, 21 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: - the current three refs cited consist of a broken link that was to a directory listing and two refs from other sailing clubs, that just mention the club in passing. Not even close to establishing WP:ORG or even WP:GNG. Even the club's own website has been removed and displays only a spam-linked placeholder page. - Ahunt (talk) 11:58, 21 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Organizations-related deletion discussions. Coolabahapple (talk) 08:36, 22 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Sports-related deletion discussions. Coolabahapple (talk) 08:36, 22 June 2020 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Delete - Best source I can find is this article in The Wichita Eagle . The rest is their website (which is down), facebook, and namechecks. Unfortunately I don't think think the coverage overall meets the threshold of the GNG. However, I'm certainly keeping an open mind so please feel free to ping me to take another look; particularly if anyone finds more sources than I could. --Jack Frost (talk) 02:01, 28 June 2020 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ~ Amkgp  💬  03:32, 28 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep - As long as reliabel independent sources can be found. Itlooks like a long established club that is still very active (yes web site is up and running!). A club that is active that long will have a significant footprint in printed media, just needs finding. I am from the UK and sailing clubs are affiliated to the RYA, which keeps detailed records and publishes lists with flag officers etc. Is there something like that in the US which would be a good source? Not necessarily on the internet of course, proper paper publications.  Billlion (talk) 09:08, 2 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Comment - ah, well that is the issue, that no one has located any sources that show WP:ORG. You really can't successfully argue "keep" unless you can show such sources exist. - Ahunt (talk) 12:12, 2 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete Generic local social activity organization, lacks signifiant coverage to establish notability. Reywas92Talk 20:27, 2 July 2020 (UTC)


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