Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Walter Hilgers


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The result was keep. Daniel (talk) 10:43, 17 July 2021 (UTC)

Walter Hilgers

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No indication of notability. He is on the faculty of Hochschule für Musik Franz Liszt, Weimar and has been a conductor on five albums, but none of them have charted and they're on five different labels, none of them major, so there is no evidence that he is prominent enough to have been signed to a recording deal. I don't see how he meets WP:GNG; as a professor, he does not meet WP:NACADEMIC; and as a conductor, he does not meet WP:MUSICBIO.

I previously PRODded it in April. It was de-prodded by another editor who gave no explanation for the deprod, and has not responded to the note on the article talk page, even when specifically re-pinged (deleted without comment).

I still don't see notability, and the lone objector is not responsive, so I'm bringing it to AFD. TJRC (talk) 00:51, 3 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions.  Spiderone (Talk to Spider) 07:19, 3 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Germany-related deletion discussions.  Spiderone (Talk to Spider) 07:20, 3 July 2021 (UTC)


 * Keep The existing article seems promotional and uses none of the resources provided by its equivalent on de.wiki. Still, I don't think the case is as obvious as it might at first appear. I agree that he doesn't meet WP:GNG but I have my doubt about the SNGs cited by the nominator. For criterion No. 5 of WP:PROF, subjects need to be named chairs or distinguished professors. In countries were these don't exist, an equivalent position works as well. In Germany, the full Professorship is the highest academic rank and is roughly equivalent to a named chair in the US. Since this subject is a professor in the German sense, I think his article should be kept under WP:PROF. Perhaps we might want to object that his university is insignificant. This is not the case: he works at the leading institution for the study of music in the state of Thuringia. This case reminds me of this AfD, where consensus determined that a similar set of circumstances was enough to satisfy WP:PROF. With all that said, his article needs to be completely revamped, but there are a number of reliable sources available in German. Modussiccandi (talk) 21:49, 3 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Academics and educators-related deletion discussions. Modussiccandi (talk) 21:50, 3 July 2021 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, TheChronium  06:58, 10 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Keep for the good reasons given by Modussiccandi. Andrew🐉(talk) 08:42, 10 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Keep - Person is notable and all reasons given above check out. Kevin19781 (talk) 01:10, 17 July 2021 (UTC)


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