Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Walter J. Burien Jr.


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The result was   delete. -- Cirt (talk) 00:41, 13 June 2010 (UTC)

Walter J. Burien Jr.

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Political activist who misuses his Wikipedia article as a soapbox. Fails WP:BIO, as far as I can tell; Google News finds only a few mentions in blogs and other apparent advocacy websites.  Sandstein  15:54, 6 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete i could find no evidence for notability. one website, NFA, which is an external link, is down now, but the website, despite having a WP article, is not very notable. name in scholar, books and google search shows no significant sources.Mercurywoodrose (talk) 16:23, 6 June 2010 (UTC)
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A "few mentions" you say above:

Try a Google search for Walter Burien and you will get over 400,000 hits.

Try a Google for Government Wealth and you will get over 50,000,000 hits with CARF1.com being the first hit and the documentary done by Walter Burien being the number 1 video hit.

Try a Google for Government Investments and you will get over 50,000,000 hits with a CAFR1.com article being the second hit.

Try a Google for CAFR and the CAFR1 site is #1.

NFA Stands for National Futures Association. The "only" registration arm for the Federal agency CFTC (Commodity Futures Trading Commission) that NFA licenses all brokers / operatives in the Commodity Futures Industry for the CFTC.

Signed, Walter J. Burien, Jr, AKA Bubien - Tel (928) 445-3532 - P. O. Box 2112 - Saint Johns, AZ 85936

PS: Try the US Patent links if you want to view some very interesting technology I invented in the telecommunications field. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.243.7.116 (talk) 08:49, 10 June 2010 (UTC)
 * gsearch for string "walter burien" gets 67k hits. exaggerating, or doing a search for the 2 names for wherever they appear, is misleading and/or uneducated. I was looking for non-blog, non-email, mentions. show 2 or 3 mentions at notable alternative politics websites: huffington post, daily kos, left, right, libertarian, whatever. Mr Burien, WP is not a free webhosting service. We are all absolutely happy with your article being here if we can find reliable sources to support it. just provide them. so far, we dont have any.Mercurywoodrose (talk) 15:38, 11 June 2010 (UTC)


 * Delete Non-notable. Subject has never held office, fails WP:POLITICIAN. He has never written a book, fails WP:AUTHOR. He has a couple of patents, but that does not confer notability. He has occasionally been interviewed on the radio . Other than that I could not find any significant or reliable coverage about him. Lots of stuff on blogs and such, but nothing from mainstream sources. Google News provides nothing at all for "Walter R. Burien Jr." and only five hits for "Walter Burien" - none of them from reliable or notable sources.. Mr. Burien claims that Google gives 400,000 hits for Walter Burien, but that undoubtedly includes sites with just "Walter" or just "Burien". A search for "Walter Burien" with the quotation marks actually provides 70,000 hits - many of them things like an e-mail he wrote to somebody. "Walter Bubien" does no better. (He claims he changed his name out of fear of reprisal - reprisal for exactly what is not clear; he claims that he and his friends and the station he appeared on "came under attack," but no trace of that attack can be found on Google.) The article itself is a mess, a cross between resumé and narrative essay, but it could be rewritten if the subject himself was notable per Wikipedia's standards WP:N - which in my opinion he is not. --MelanieN (talk) 01:10, 12 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Comment I don't know that any of these are him, but here are some possible references. The article is a mess, and will require extensive cleanup stripping COI if it remains. Also, all unsourced material should be stripped, and that will reduce the article by a large amount. -- Nuujinn (talk) 02:32, 12 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks for that interesting collection. The only article that is clearly about him is the guy at allafrica.com, showing his video at a conference in Africa. The articles from the Daily Courier refer to someone running for local office in Prescott, Arizona. Several of the articles, from major sources like the Fort Worth Star-Telegram and the Washington Times, refer to a recruiter and spokesman for a local militia, also in Arizona. No evidence as to whether this is or isn't the same guy, but it could be; our Walter J. Burien Jr. reportedly lives in Arizona. This guy could turn out to be more interesting than his self-promotional article lets on. --MelanieN (talk) 02:47, 12 June 2010 (UTC)


 * Delete, unless some reliable sources can be found. I've started some minor cleanup, but there is basically no sourced material in the article. -- Nuujinn (talk) 22:30, 12 June 2010 (UTC)
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