Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Walter Piano Company


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The result was no consensus. North America1000 12:47, 22 January 2021 (UTC)

Walter Piano Company

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Not enough evidence of Notability, just some PR pieces. Doesn't satisfy WP:NCORP or WP:GNG. Lord Grandwell (talk) 23:30, 29 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Companies-related deletion discussions. Lord Grandwell (talk) 23:30, 29 December 2020 (UTC)
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 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Indiana-related deletion discussions.  Spiderone  23:34, 29 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Music-related deletion discussions.  Spiderone  23:34, 29 December 2020 (UTC)


 * Delete: Well, there's extremely little coverage (if it can be called coverage) that I can find in my search. Fails WP:NCORP by a mile.  Java Hurricane  08:31, 30 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete - fails NCORP as already mentioned by both above me Spiderone  09:13, 30 December 2020 (UTC)

Keep per the significant coverage in multiple independent reliable sources.  This entry is over 2,000 words long. From https://www.library.hbs.edu/Find/Databases/International-Directory-of-Company-Histories, the International Directory of Company Histories contains "Comprehensive histories of 8,500 of the world's largest and most influential companies." The entry's summary notes: "Walter Piano Company, Inc., is an Elkhart, Indiana, manufacturer of handmade pianos, sold under the Charles R. Walter name through a network of dealers. The company offers grand pianos, six-feet-four-inches in length, in cherry, ebony, mahogany, and walnut veneers. Console pianos are offered in a variety of styles, including traditional, country classic, French provincial, Italian provincial, and the Riviera. Walter Piano also produces less-ornate studio pianos in cherry, ebony, mahogany, and oak veneers. These upright pianos are geared toward school and church use. The company is owned and managed by founder Charles R. Walter, his wife, and their children. Walter Piano is the only remaining American family-owned piano manufacturing company in North America." The entry notes: "The lineage of the pianos produced by Walter Piano is far older than the company itself and is linked to one of the United States' most renowned band instrument makers, Charles Gerard Conn, the founder of the Conn Company, whose brand is currently controlled by Conn-Selmer, Inc. Conn was born in Phelps, New York, in 1844 and grew up in Elkhart, Indiana, where he learned to play the coronet as well as the violin." The entry notes in a sidebar: "One of the finest handmade pianos of our day. I would dare to call them the Steinway of the 21st century. These pianos are built with the utmost attention to detail and maintain the supremacy of the American-made pianos. Although their vertical piano only stands 43.75 inches high the Walter piano uses the same length strings as a 5′8″ baby grand and has a better sound than most 52″ upright pianos. The quality of materials is top notch and with the everincreasing euro, the Charles R. Walter pianos are the best deal in a piano today!" The entry has sections titled "Rich Heritage" (234 words), "Acquires Haddorff Piano: 1940" (153 words), "Charles Walter Joins Conn" (229 words), "Conn Organ Leaves Elkhart" (92 words), "Walter Company Formed" (198 words), "Company Perspectives" sidebar (96 words), "Walter Improves Piano Cases" (122 words), "Adoption of Walter Brand" (231 words), "Increasing Sales" (186 words), and "New Plant Opens: 1996" (303 words).  The book notes: "Walter Piano Company This American firm of piano makers was founded by Charles R. Walter (b. 1927), head of Piano Design and Developmental Engineering at the C.G.Conn Company during the 1960s, when Conn was doing significant research in musical ACOUSTICS. In 1969 Walter, an engineer, bought the Janssen piano name and piano manufacturing facilities (originally established in 1901 by Ben H. Janssen) from Conn, and in 1975 brought out the Charles R. Walter line of pianos. ... To this end, on his purchase of the Janssen company, production was sharply curtailed; the firm produces fewer than two thousand pianos a year. The company is unique in that it is family owned and operated, staffed by Walter himself, his wife, and various relatives. ... ... The modern Walter Piano Company obviously has no connection with the early Walter Company, a maker of UPRIGHTS controlled by the James Munn Company of New York. The Walter Piano Company is located in Elkhart, Indiana."  The book notes: "American firm of piano makers, founded by Charles R. Walter (b Watseka, IL, 8 May 1927). Walter was trained as an engineer and joined the C.G. Conn Company in 1964. He became head of the piano division in 1967. Conn at that time produced Janssen upright pianos, which it discontinued in 1969. ..." There is sufficient coverage in reliable sources to allow Walter Piano Company to pass Notability, which requires "significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject". Cunard (talk) 08:25, 4 January 2021 (UTC)</ul> <div class="xfd_relist" style="border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 25px;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Eddie891 Talk Work 12:48, 6 January 2021 (UTC) <div class="xfd_relist" style="border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 25px;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus. Relisting comment: Discussion about the sources presented later in this discussion would be beneficial.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America1000 11:23, 14 January 2021 (UTC)


 * Keep, per substantial coverage identified by User:Cunard, with significance including that it is the "only remaining American family-owned piano manufacturing company in North America." --Doncram (talk) 07:28, 20 January 2021 (UTC)


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