Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/War of the Gods (Part 1)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.  

The result was deleted as redundant (to War of the Gods) as requested by the article's creator – Gurch 23:32, 9 November 2006 (UTC)

War of the Gods (Part 1)


Contested PROD. Yank sox 01:43, 8 November 2006 (UTC)


 * Comment if you're going to delete that, you'll also have to delete everything else on the List of Battlestar Galactica (1978-1980) episodes.  Ultra-Loser  Talk / Contributions 01:50, 8 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Comment Do you actually have a reason for taking all of these articles to AfD? Resolute 01:52, 8 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Kappa has been deprodding stuff, and once something is deprodded it needs to go to AfD for consensus. Yank sox  02:02, 8 November 2006 (UTC)
 * I'm not aware of such a provision, and I can't seem to find an automatic AFD clause in WP:PROD. In any case, shouldn't the rationale of the old prod be restarted in the afd? hateless 03:34, 8 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Keep all Articles can be expanded. Wavy G 02:05, 8 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Keep all? There's one article here. Yank sox  02:06, 8 November 2006 (UTC)
 * I know. Ultra-Loser (great name) commented that if this article is going to be deleted, then all other episodes of this series would need to be deleted (and why would one episode of a list of episodes be nominated without any of the others being nominated anyway?).  I was prematurely stating, in that case, keep them all. Wavy G 02:22, 8 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Ok, let's get something straight. Did you read the article? It's one sentence, it doesn't add anything at all. You can have a list and nominate stuff later on that doesn't meet notability. But for now, just think about this article. Yank sox  02:26, 8 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Yes, my name rules. Anyways, I've thought this over, and I've decided to vote delete, for this article and every other article in the list - unless someone can expand them considerably within the next five days. Right now they're just wasting space on the wikipedia servers and degrading the quality of this encyclopedia. Anyone who comes to this article looking for information will likely just be disappointed. I dig the spoiler warning over the "this article is a stub" sentance, by the way. Very useful.  Ultra-Loser  Talk / Contributions 02:45, 8 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Yes, I read it, and I then went to the episodes list and glanced at a couple other episodes. They appear to be mostly one sentence articles, but that's why I made the comment that articles can be expanded.  I've never seen the show, but I know it has a huge fanbase.  Surely someone can expand it.  I'd hate to see Wikipedia become lopsided in its content, excluding content on older shows, while current shows like My Name is Earl and Office have entire in-depth synopses of every single episode.  Just my thoughts. Wavy G 02:54, 8 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Comment Maybe it would be more useful to have all of the one-liner articles merged into a list while retaining the blurb descriptors and then linking that list back to the main article? I can see why we should keep the material in as much as we keep a lot of pop culture, but a load of 1 line articles isn't really what we want unless they will someday each grow into something more than a stub. Robovski 04:16, 8 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete this and other Battlestar Galactia episodes unless someone expands them beyond 1 line before the AFD closes. IF these are kept, then merge this with part 2 as is tradition (look at Star Trek, 2 part episodes have 1 article). TJ Spyke 02:30, 8 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Weak Keep It should be kept but single line articles like this have no intrinsic value. They are also a pain to navigate to, and elevate what should be a bullet point in a main article detailing all episodes, to one which has a full page given to it. Its simply a waste of resources.  We need some policy on this scope_creep 03:01, 8 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete Fancruft. The show may deserve an article, but single episodes do not. --John Nagle 04:12, 8 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Comment You might want to look around - there are plenty of articles on single episodes of various TV series in Wikipedia. The precedent has been set. 23skidoo 15:58, 9 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete, substub one-line articles. If someone wants to do an expansion, they can always recreate. -  SpLoT  / (talk) 11:24, 8 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Keep There are many thousands of TV episodes that have pages on Wikipedia, do you suggest we delete them all? Some of them are even less significant than Battlestar Galactica. Needs expanding but keep, no reason it can't stay on here. Ben W Bell   talk  14:54, 8 November 2006 (UTC)
 * "If article X then article Y." is a fallacious argument, for obvious reasons. The correct argument is that Wikipedia should reflect the sources that exist in the world at large.  We justify articles on individual episodes from series like Babylon 5 and Star Trek not because "other shows have them", but because we can point to web sites, articles, and even entire books where people have documented, commented upon, and analysed such television series at the levels of the individual episodes.  If you wish to make a similar case for this television series, please point to equivalent web sites, scholary articles, or books for this series that provide the requisite amount of source material for supporting an individual encyclopaedia article on this individual episode. Uncle G 15:52, 8 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Weak Keep. The big problem with this (and the others) is that they are sub-stubs. I have put a message on the original author of this article(and other BG episode articles) urging him to expand the articles(he/she appears to be active). Hopefully, they (or someone else will expand). Jcam 15:20, 8 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Comment Original author here. Oy, vey, give me a break, okay? First thing was to create the article, put in all the infobox information, link it all, and then pad it out. For any article this is a drawn out process and part of this is that the whole thing IS supposed to be collaborative, right? Having the article is supposed to invite editing and improvement, right? The article's less than a week old, have a coffee and wait to see how long it's been before you go and do something like this... Now... I have to have another yelling match with someone over naming conventions. -- BlueSquadron Raven 19:35, 8 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Obvious redirect to War of the Gods (Battlestar Galactica). &mdash;Cryptic 16:48, 8 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Redirect as per Cryptic. -Toptomcat 17:48, 8 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Redirect Part 1 and Part 2 to War of the Gods (Battlestar Galactica) per Cryptic. And rename to part 1 and part 2, respectively. --Steve 22:36, 8 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Redirect per above, since two-part episodes are generally treated in a single article (see Who Shot Mr. Burns). And I think it's fair to have articles on the other individual episodes; there's at least one book out there that analyzes every episode of the series, and I'm sure there are some fansites out there, as well. Give 'em time to grow. Zagalejo 03:54, 9 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Is there a separate B-star-wiki ?  If so, send it there; if not, get one of the knowledgeable to expand this (It was only created a week ago (!) and then keep.  Unless you want *every* episode of *every* series nominated for deletion (not a threat, but would it not be a legitimate Willy-On-Wheels ?) -- Simon Cursitor 14:47, 9 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Redirect per above. Strong keep but expand, of course. The precedent has already been set for episodes of TV shows of all types of have their own articles -- if this one is deleted there are literally hundreds of other articles that would need to be so. Even if one were to apply the "is the show culturally notable enough to justify this?" argument, BSG would qualify. My comments on episodes stand, but I wasn't aware that an article on the two parter already existed, so a redirect is fine by me. 23skidoo 15:58, 9 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete Article has been superceded by War of the Gods.-- BlueSquadron Raven 22:59, 9 November 2006 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.