Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/War on Iraq: What Team Bush Doesn't Want You to Know


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The result was   keep. There are no arguments for deletion other than the nomination, the posibility of a redirect or merge can be discussed on the talkpage. J04n(talk page) 10:45, 28 February 2013 (UTC)

War on Iraq: What Team Bush Doesn't Want You to Know

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Unreferenced since creation; no Ghits that support notability per WP:NBOOK. ukexpat (talk) 18:32, 20 February 2013 (UTC)
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 * Comment. I found mention of the book in connection with its author in The Boston Globe, but it seems short of a review for purposes of the WP:NBOOK criteria. I also found mention of it in The New York Times (and republished in the Chicago Tribune) in connection with the book's subject, but reference to the author is only a footnote at the bottom of the article. I'm leaning redirect, but not sure if it should point to the author or the subject. Location (talk) 19:45, 20 February 2013 (UTC)
 * Possible redirect to William_Rivers_Pitt - I found the same results too, mainly footnotes as well as some brief mentions here, here, here and here. I haven't found reviews from news sources but there are two, here (from Executive Intelligence Review) and here (mindshiftinstitute.org). Although Scott Ritter contributed the book, it seems William Pitt is credited as the main author so redirecting may be a good option. SwisterTwister   talk  20:00, 20 February 2013 (UTC)
 * Good finds. I think I agree with you on the direction of the redirect. Incidentally, I recently asked about the reliability of EIR on WP:RSN. It might be acceptable for an opinion on the book, but its bias and lack of reliability lead me to think that it is an insufficient basis for a stand-alone article. Location (talk) 20:29, 20 February 2013 (UTC)
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 * Keep This brief book is an interview of U.N. weapons inspector Scott Ritter, who is an exceptionally important figure in the history of opposition to the 2003 invasion of Iraq, despite his unrelated personal legal problems. I oppose a redirect to William Rivers Pitt, because he was the interviewer, and the book's importance comes entirely from what Scott Ritter had to say. This anti-war book was published at the time that war hysteria in the United States was at a fever pitch, and Scott Ritter was being widely ridiculed by "reliable sources", so in the spirit of ignoring all rules, I would recommend disregarding the lack of in-depth reviews at the time of publication. Worthy of note is that, in my opinion, Ritter's analysis has proven to be true, and those who criticized him are discredited. History will judge. Although I am not arguing that this is an "academic book" in the normal sense of that term, it has proven to be an important source for historians writing the history of the Iraq war debacle. The section of WP:NBOOKS on academic books says that "common sense should prevail" and that one factor determining notability is "how widely the book is cited". As the history of that war has been written in the past decade, this book has been an important subject of study. It inspired a chapter in War on Truth: Everything You Ever Wanted to Know about the Invasion of Iraq But Your Government Wouldn't Tell You, 2008, and is cited in Bring 'em On: Media And Politics In The Iraq War, 2005, Bush's Wars, 2011, From "9-11" to the "Iraq War 2003": International Law in a Age of Complexity, 2003, The Fall of the House of Bush: The Untold Story of How a Band of True Believers Seized the Executive Branch, Started the Iraq War, and Still Imperils America's Future, 2007, Mass Media, Mass Propaganda: Understanding the News in the 'War on Terror', 2008, Haunted Victory: The American Crusade to Destroy Saddam and Impose Democracy on Iraq, 2012, Imperial Designs: Neo Conservatism in the New Pax Americana, 2004, The Road to War: Manufacturing Public Opinion in Support of U. S. Foreign Policy Goals, 2008, The Great War for Civilisation: The Conquest of the Middle East, 2007, War, Media, and Propaganda: A Global Perspective, 2004, Economy, Difference, Empire: Social Ethics for Social Justice, 2010. I see at least twenty other books that cite this book. This book is an exceptionally important and notable source document studied by many historians working in this field, and accordingly this article should be kept and expanded.  Cullen 328  Let's discuss it  01:07, 21 February 2013 (UTC)
 * Weak Keep, regardless of my personal opinion regarding this book, the subject appears to pass WP:BKCRIT; it has been the subject of multiple reliable sources articles, which if taken in total maybe considered significant coverage. The book has also been used as a reliable source by multiple published sources. This means that the subject passes criterias 1 & 3 of BKCRIT.--RightCowLeftCoast (talk) 18:36, 21 February 2013 (UTC)
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