Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Warped Tour 2002 Tour Compilation


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was Please split and resubmit. There's too many disparate articles here for people to examine together. No consensus, and no prejudice against immediate re-nomination.

please resubmit this as a number of smaller groupings. It sounds like maybe three new AfDs would make sense: 1) all the Warped Tour, 2) all the Punk-o-Rama, and 3) everything else, but I'll leave the details up to you. In lieu of that, if you want to perform some of the merges suggested here instead of renominating, that's fine too.  And please ping the other participants in this discussion.

If you want to have some further discussion before going ahead with a renomination, please do so on WT:Articles for deletion/Warped Tour 2002 Tour Compilation. -- RoySmith (talk) 15:25, 18 November 2017 (UTC)

Warped Tour 2002 Tour Compilation

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I am also nominating the following related pages for deletion because of similar issues – basically due to failing the WP:GNG criteria for notability:

My recent WP:PRODs for the first four of these articles (2002, 2011, 2012, and 2013) were deprodded by the same anonymous IP without providing any edit summary to explain the action (and the IP has no other edit history).
 * The article Warped Tour 2002 Tour Compilation cites only a dead link on Allmusic (a site that does not limit its descriptions to notable topics and has generally been agreed to be insufficient for establishing notability for Wikpedia purposes). That is clearly inadequate to show evidence of notability. The article consists only of track listing information, with no commentary by critics and no charting information or any other indication of notability.
 * The article Warped Tour 2011 Tour Compilation cites only a self-published promotional dead link and shows no clear evidence of notability. The article basically only contains the sort of information one would find printed on the album cover (i.e., a track listing and a description of the cover art).
 * The article Warped Tour 2012 Tour Compilation shows no evidence of notability and is poorly sourced. It cites only a four-sentence review on Allmusic, a track listing, and a self-published dead link. The article contains only basic information, includes no commentary by music critics, shows no evidence that the album charted, etc.
 * The article Warped Tour 2013 Tour Compilation is essentially unsourced and contains no evidence of notability. It cites only a track listing and contains only basic information such as a track listing. There is no commentary by music critics, no charting information, no other indication that the topic is really notable.
 * The article Warped Tour 2005 Tour Compilation cites only a one-paragraph (seven-sentence) review on Allmusic, which is clearly inadequate to show evidence of notability. The article consists only of track listing information, with no commentary by critics and no charting information.
 * This is the second nomination for deletion for Warped Tour 2010 Tour Compilation. Its prior discussion can be found at Articles for deletion/Warped Tour 2010 Tour Compilation. That article cites only a three-sentence comment on Allmusic, which is clearly insufficient to establish notability. The article contains only basic track listing information and a description of the cover art – no comments by music critics and no evidence of notability. The situation for that article has not improved at all since its first deletion nomination in 2010. I believe the passage of time with no further evidence of long-term notability should be sufficient to clarify the fact that this article should be deleted. The previous "keep" consensus was based in part on someone's comment that "I imagine there are more [sources] out there" (emphasis added), The famous X-Files tagline that "The Truth Is Out There" comes to mind – the article was kept based a WP:Fringe theory speculation.
 * Punk-O-Rama Vol. 2, a.k.a. the 1997 Warped Tour Compilation (per the Warped Tour template content), cites only a self-published dead link from the record company and a four-sentence comment on Allmusic. It contains only basic track listing information an unsourced comment about the price of the album and unsourced comments about the previous release of certain tracks.
 * Punk-O-Rama (album), Punk-O-Rama III, Punk-O-Rama 4, Punk-O-Rama 2001, Vol. 6, Punk-O-Rama 7, Punk-O-Rama 8, Punk-O-Rama Vol. 9, and Punk-O-Rama 10 have basically identical characteristics as for Punk-O-Rama Vol. 2.
 * Punk-O-Rama 5 cites only two self-published sentences from the record company and a one-paragraph Allmusic blurb.
 * Punk-O-Rama cites only a self-published statement from the record company that says the series is defunct.
 * Unsound (compilation album) cites the same self-published statement from the record company that says the previous series is defunct. It contains no evidence that the newer series, which was discontinued after just one release, achieved any greater degree of notability.
 * The Melancholy Collection and Smile... You're Dying!, linked to this grouping of articles via their categorization as other compilations in the Epitaph records category, are completely unsourced and contain only basic track listing information and comments about previous releases.
 * Kung-Fu (album), Schizo (album), Fifi (album), Choice for a Lost Generation?!, Fast Forward (Heideroosjes album), It's a Life (12,5 Years Live!), and Royal to the Bone, linked chronologically in a series to Smile... You're Dying! – completely unsourced, etc.
 * Sinema (album) – also linked chronologically in the series, cites only a track listing on Allmusic (no critical commentary at all), and is similarly bereft of meaningful content.

Addendum 1: If this multi-article nomination for deletion is successful, the template Warped Tour should probably also be deleted, since it is basically a navigation guide to some of the articles that are nominated for deletion. Addendum 2: This would also make the category Category:Heideroosjes albums empty.

—BarrelProof (talk) 06:09, 28 October 2017 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Music-related deletion discussions. —BarrelProof (talk) 07:15, 28 October 2017 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Albums and songs-related deletion discussions. North America1000 08:05, 28 October 2017 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Delete all They do not meet the notability requirements (WP:NALBUMS). Additionally, there is not enough material for "reasonably detailed articles" – these will be nothing more than track listings (WP:PERMASTUB) and not appropriate for an encyclopedia. —Ojorojo (talk) 15:59, 1 November 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete I also support deleting them all. None of them meet either basic GNG nor specific NALBUMS. They're deprodded without any rationale and not improved even by an inch since then. My little source search yielded nothing reliable, this means they will remain parmanent stub with no encyclopedic value. They were deprodded just for sake of deprodding by IP with no single other meaningful edit. &thinsp;&mdash; Ammarpad (talk) 12:31, 3 November 2017 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, -- Aunva6talk - contribs 14:35, 3 November 2017 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Delete all per nom.  Lugnuts  Fire Walk with Me 18:36, 4 November 2017 (UTC)
 * Keep All - This is an improper nomination, which combines a number of compilation albums of Type 1 with a number of compilation albums of Type 2 with sundry absolutely unrelated nominations dealing with albums of a Dutch band. Merge Punk-o-Rama articles into a single piece. These are amply reviewed. Probably also what needs to happen with the Warped Tour Comps. Carrite (talk) 17:08, 7 November 2017 (UTC) Modified: Carrite (talk) 17:12, 7 November 2017 (UTC)
 * Procedural Keep with some merges at editorial discretion. I agree with Carrite that this has too many unrelated topics. The Warped Tour Compilations should be merged to a compliation-albums page, or renamed to be the basis of pages such as Warped Tour 2017.  The Punk-O-Rama should probably be merged as well.  Everything else should be kept as there's too much going on to discuss them properly. power~enwiki ( π,  ν ) 21:25, 8 November 2017 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,  Sandstein   16:24, 10 November 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete most: all of the Warped Tour compilations, Punk-o-Rama albums, and Unsound (compilation album) are basically promotional sampler albums showcasing previously released material one or more record labels. The sources merely indicate that items exist. I believe the articles on albums by individual bands (everything below Unsound on the list above) however should be considered in a separate discussion, e.g . the albums by Heideroosjes might better redirect to the band article if found to be non-notable, but it's dicey to have too many results from a single discussion. --Animalparty! (talk) 19:41, 10 November 2017 (UTC)


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