Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Washiqur Rahman (2nd nomination)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was  Redirect.. The arguments concerning the notability, encyclopaedic-ness etc. of the subject are basically still similar to what have already been discussed and evaluated in the last AFD. Whether, there is anything to merge from this article to the redirect-target could be looked at. (non-admin closure) Winged Blades Godric  08:22, 14 June 2017 (UTC)

Washiqur Rahman

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AfDs for this article: 

http://businessnews24bd.com/trial-begins-in-blogger-washiqur-murder-case/ http://www.secularism.org.uk/blog/2017/05/murdered-for-the-crime-of-blasphemy http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2015/09/bangladesh-charges-men-murder-blogger-150901131511504.html https://www.pressreader.com/oman/times-of-oman/20170403/281651074951590 --PlanespotterA320 (talk) 20:33, 1 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Keep, Don't redirect or merge- Was an assasination that made worldwide headine news, and not just for a few days after the incident. Other famous bloggers who faced assasination and attempted assasination knew him, he knew Avijit Roy.  After his murder Asif Mohiuddin, another notable blogger who survived a machete attack spoke of him, and he knew him.(http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-32701207)  International media coverage continued long after the incident (March 2015), as shown here.  The original article was deleted in 2015 on the grounds of lacking news coverage after the incident, but after it was deleted there was more, rendering such reason invalid.  The article also exists on Zaza, German, Simple English, and Turkish language wikipedias.  Consensus on the previous deletion was in no way unanimous, and the topic has come up again and in the news after the deletion.  On the original deletion many argued for it to be kept.  He many not have been in international worldwide news before the incident, but had presence in Bengali language media.


 * Comment The first article on the topic, Washiqur Rahman Babu, was merged and redirected to Attacks on atheists in Bangladesh in April 2015 after a deletion discussion. When created this new article on the topic in May 2017, I redirected it because [this version] did not improve upon [the redirected version] with respect to the reasons the topic was redirected.


 * You can read the previous discussion and closing comments yourself. PlanespotterA320's reading seems to be that the original problem was a lack of news coverage after the incident. Although that concern was raised during the discussion, my own reading is that the major problem was that Rahman was a low profile individual notable only for one event. Quite an alphabet soup of policies and guidelines were cited in arguments:
 * What Wikipedia is Not: WP:NOTMEMORIAL, WP:NOTNEWS, WP:INDISCRIMINATE
 * Biographies of Living People (and low-profile individuals): WP:BLP1E
 * Notability: WP:N, WP:NEVENT, WP:ANYBIO, WP:VICTIM, WP:BIO1E
 * --Worldbruce (talk) 15:06, 6 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of People-related deletion discussions. Worldbruce (talk) 15:08, 6 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Crime-related deletion discussions. Worldbruce (talk) 15:08, 6 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Bangladesh-related deletion discussions. Worldbruce (talk) 15:08, 6 June 2017 (UTC)

--Worldbruce (talk) 15:21, 6 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Redirect per previous AFD - particularly as we have Attacks on atheists in Bangladesh. We're still looking at, essentially, BIO1E as the problem. I note that this almost qualifies for CSD G4 since it is effectively recreation of previously deleted content? --M ASEM (t) 16:17, 6 June 2017 (UTC)


 * Keep NYT, BBC, CNN coverage of blogger hacked to death for reasons beyond petty crime. The attempt, again, to delete this is a damnatio memoriae that is hard to take in good faith. μηδείς (talk) 03:11, 7 June 2017 (UTC)
 * No one has suggested here that victim Washiqur Rahman be deleted, or is suggesting that he should not be remembered. His death is given three paragraphs in Attacks by Islamic extremists in Bangladesh, and there are at least four redirects to take searchers there from variations of his name. However, reliable sources cover him only in connection with his murder. And they cover his murder in the broader context of other attacks on bloggers in Bangladesh. WP:BIO1E cautions against creating pseudo-biographies, the description of which goes on to say:
 * "An article under the title of a person's name should substantially be a full and balanced biography of that person's public life. If the person is notable only in connection with a single event, and little or no other information is available to use in the writing of a balanced biography, that person should be covered in an article regarding the event, with the person's name as a redirect to the event article placing the information in context."
 * --Worldbruce (talk) 04:10, 7 June 2017 (UTC)


 * Redirect to Attacks on atheists in Bangladesh. I stand by what I said when I closed the previous RFD, which is neatly summed up policy-wise by  above.  Philg88 ♦talk 05:17, 7 June 2017 (UTC)


 * Redirect, per nom, per all above and per my comments on last AfD. Nothing changed about Rahman since the article was first was AfD'ed, now more strongly suggesting WP:1E. No merge attempt is necessary as the subject is sufficiently covered in target article Attacks by Islamic extremists in Bangladesh. -- nafSadh  did say 18:27, 7 June 2017 (UTC)


 * Fix the merger. The article contains quite different information than is available at the redirect target, Attacks by Islamic extremists in Bangladesh. Until that situation is corrected, Washiqur Rahman should not be deleted. Briefly: this proposal is premature, and as stated above, has the character of a damnatio memoriae. Sminthopsis84 (talk) 01:20, 10 June 2017 (UTC)


 * Redirect, per nom.  ~ Moheen   (keep talking) 17:31, 12 June 2017 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.