Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Wasim Akbar


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was no consensus. Sports AFDs are spotty oftentimes, as is the case here. While a sports SNG doesn't supercede GNG, there is no agreement in this dicussion on notability and it seems that nobody has actually performed a thorough search for sourcing. Redirection to List of Lahore City Whites cricketers would likely be a viable outcome, but we cannot redirect to an article that doesn't exist. Potentially there is/will be a discussion about wider cricket notability, one that cannot take place here but might resolve the debate. Eddie891 Talk Work 14:49, 23 September 2020 (UTC)

Wasim Akbar

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The article clearly doesn't meet WP:GNG. Have performed a WP:BEFORE and nothing came up. I've nominated two articles previously which were similar and they have been deleted (here and here). Editors over there cited the WP:CRIN guideline which is being debated itself and for it to change, precedent is needed, clearly those guidelines aren't being accepted and seem to me like they'll never be able to satisfy the GNG. Another argument given by editors on similar pages is given that sources in other languages might exist, I am thoroughly unconvinced by this as none of these sources have materialized and I feel like it's an argument which can be used anywhere; all an editor has to do is claim that sources exist. Please note I am a new editor and this is my understanding after trying my best to read as many guidelines and past discussions as possible, I could have easily made mistake, but I am just trying to be bold. Iitianeditor (talk) 18:57, 9 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of People-related deletion discussions. Iitianeditor (talk) 18:57, 9 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Sportspeople-related deletion discussions. Iitianeditor (talk) 18:57, 9 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Cricket-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 20:06, 9 September 2020 (UTC)
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 * Keep passes WP:CRIN CreativeNorth (talk) 15:31, 10 September 2020 (UTC)
 * The consensus from this RFC is that no subject specific guideline supercedes GNG, specifically sport (including NCRIC), and arguments must go further than bare "meets SNG" assertions. Ideally, articles such as these would simply be merged into lists, but those lists do not exist in many cases. wjematherplease leave a message... 08:42, 11 September 2020 (UTC)


 * Delete Fails GNG/BIO/SPORTBASIC. A great example of why there is consensus at NSPORT to rewrite NCRIC and remove the low-bar domestic appearance criteria. Just two LA matches played, contributing very little. No sources available beyond routine and indiscriminate statistics. wjematherplease leave a message... 19:55, 10 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep Meets NCRIC. Mass-nominating articles (at a rate of >=3/min) from one third-world country during a world-wide lockdown is not the way to change notability guidelines. Meets an SNG and I put no stock on the assertion that a search for GNG has been exhausted; it's hard enough to achieve it during normal times and with better-studied subjects in more affluent parts of the world. Usedtobecool ☎️ 09:30, 11 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep per C-North and Usedto...  Lugnuts  Fire Walk with Me 19:50, 11 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Comment the consensus at this RFC is that "meets SNG" assertions are insufficient arguments at AfD. As noted above, there is also consensus at NSPORT that NCRIC/CRIN is far too permissive with respect to domestic matches played, and match tally is not a reliable indicator (especially when that tally is low). As such, evidence is required (i.e. substantial reliable coverage outside of stats databases) to show that the subject meets GNG/BIO/SPORTBASIC. wjematherplease leave a message... 17:00, 13 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Redirect. Borderline this one, but give his two matches were fairly drab afairs for him, I'd say redirect to List of Lahore City Whites cricketers, which would need to be created. StickyWicket (talk) 22:16, 14 September 2020 (UTC)


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