Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Water safety in New Zealand


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   keep. –MuZemike 01:03, 7 July 2010 (UTC)

Water safety in New Zealand

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Reads like a school essay and fails WP:HOWTO (Wikipedia is not an instruction manual or guidebook). Much rather clumsy original research based on statistics. Most of the 'advice' is not specific to New Zealand. We should have an article on the historical prevalence of drowning in New Zealand, but not with this title. dramatic (talk) 09:04, 29 June 2010 (UTC)
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 * So why didn't you just rename it to the title that it should have had, and write without mercy? You've expended more effort, and more time, with an AFD nomination than you would have done just boldly doing a rename and refactor back in May 2010. Uncle G (talk) 12:41, 29 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Keep, weakly. If, as the article alleges, water safety is a particular concern in New Zealand, I can't think of a better title, myself.  Without being able to look at the sources myself, I can't say much there, but with a better lede this could turn into a proper article. - Smerdis of Tlön - killing the human spirit since 2003! 14:53, 29 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Keep Although the article is written by someone not yet familiar with Wikipedia's style of writing, New Zealand's efforts to reduce the number of drownings is most certainly notable. I think that the title is just fine, and I agree with the nominator that "we should have an article on the historical prevalence of drowning in New Zealand".  I disagree with statements that this is "clumsy original research" or that it's entirely a how to (or maybe a "how not to drown").  Maybe it had been a school essay, but it's certainly a good start on a Wikipedia article. Mandsford 16:05, 29 June 2010 (UTC)
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