Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Wausau Curling Club


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. Not convinced this one meets our WP:GNG per the arguments presented by User:SportingFlyer. Missvain (talk) 23:14, 10 June 2021 (UTC)

Wausau Curling Club

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Local sports club, sourced only to the local paper and the club's own website, promotional concerns, fails WP:GNG. SportingFlyer  T · C  21:41, 19 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Organizations-related deletion discussions. SportingFlyer  T · C  21:41, 19 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Sports-related deletion discussions. SportingFlyer  T · C  21:41, 19 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Wisconsin-related deletion discussions. SportingFlyer  T · C  21:41, 19 May 2021 (UTC)

Keep. It will be hosting the US National Championships in a week or so. I think that makes it notable.-- Earl Andrew - talk 01:36, 20 May 2021 (UTC)
 * While that event may provide good reliable sources, they just don't exist yet. Furthermore, please read WP:INHERITORG, which says that this club isn't necessarily notable just because it hosted the US Nationals. JackFromWisconsin (talk &#124; contribs) 13:02, 20 May 2021 (UTC)

Keep A basic WP:BEFORE finds substantive coverage on WSAW-TV, the Wasau Daily Herald , the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel , WAOW-TV , Wisconsin Public Radio , etc., etc., etc. Chetsford (talk) 06:19, 20 May 2021 (UTC)
 * The only one which looks like it might pass WP:NCORP requirements from that list is the NPR one. The rest are passing mentions. SportingFlyer  T · C  12:28, 20 May 2021 (UTC)
 * "... passing mentions" - No, that's incorrect. For instance, WSAW-TV's story is titled "Take a look at the Wausau Curling Club" and mentions it directly or indirectly 7 times in a 3-minute television segment dedicated to the Wasau Curling Club while the Daily Herald's article is titled "Wausau Curling Club slides into the 2014-15 season" and mentions it directly or indirectly six times in an 11 paragraph article specifically about the Wasau Curling Club. The other references are similar. It is, therefore, an objectively false statement that "The only one which looks like it might pass WP:NCORP requirements from that list is the NPR one. The rest are passing mentions." Thanks - Chetsford (talk) 14:55, 20 May 2021 (UTC)
 * WP:NORG has an WP:AUD requirement. Two local articles on the club clearly don't demonstrate notability and don't pass the WP:NCORP requirements. SportingFlyer  T · C  12:05, 27 May 2021 (UTC)
 * WSAW and WAOW are regional media as described by AUD; both cover the Wasau-Rhinelander DMA which includes 24 cities with a total 12+ population of ~400K, or larger than New Orleans. Wisconsin Public Radio is also regional media, straddling three market areas with 12 affiliate stations. So are the others, etc. Per AUD "one regional, statewide, provincial, national, or international source is necessary". The one non-local source requirement is met and exceeded. Chetsford (talk) 14:01, 27 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Calling those sources regional is very generous. SportingFlyer  T · C  14:26, 27 May 2021 (UTC)
 * It's really not. Regional media is media that covers more than one locality but has less than national reach. Wisconsin Public Radio covers the 190 cities of Wisconsin. This is even envisaged in AUD which refers to "statewide" media. WSAW-TV provides news coverage spanning 11 separate counties . It is objectively not local. If it were local it would cover one county. Chetsford (talk) 16:48, 27 May 2021 (UTC)
 * I still disagree - Wausau's not a very large place, and calling something "regional" on the grounds that it might be distributed to some very low-population counties can't save the article. Furthermore I'm not sure the articles you cite are completely independent - they include text like To curl, all you need is clean shoes, warm clothes and a positive attitude to give it a try! The club will provide the rest of the basic equipment (the local news source) and To reserve a spot or for more information on either event, visit the Wausau Curling Club's Facebook page, log on to [website]... They're not doing independent reporting on the club, but rather are doing general local interest stories about a local organisation. SportingFlyer  T · C  18:11, 27 May 2021 (UTC)
 * I still disagree - Wausau's not a very large place, and calling something "regional" on the grounds that it might be distributed to some very low-population counties can't save the article. Once again, Wisconsin Public Radio is a network of 34 radio stations providing coverage to an area of 5,893,718 people (the state of Wisconsin), greater than the population of the nation of Finland. Even if you maintain that we should adopt your personal and unconventional definition of regional media that precludes WSAW-TV and WAOW-TV, this still meets the requirement of WP:AUD for "one regional, statewide, provincial, national, or international source is necessary" in addition to local RS. Chetsford (talk) 21:37, 27 May 2021 (UTC)

Keep'. Do not delete the page. 173.47.141.230 (talk) 10:21, 20 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete, as per SportingFlyer's response to the sources brought by Chetsford, those are passing mentions and not usable for GNG. JackFromWisconsin (talk &#124; contribs) 12:59, 20 May 2021 (UTC)

Keep based on the substantive coverage listed by Chetsford and expect more coverage in the next couple of weeks while they host significant national championships. A202985 (talk) 16:10, 20 May 2021 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Missvain (talk) 00:03, 27 May 2021 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Missvain (talk) 22:40, 3 June 2021 (UTC)


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