Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Wayne Hoffman (2nd nomination)


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The result was   delete. I would be happy to userfy if anyone wants to pick through it to find sourced, mergeable information. &mdash;Darkwind (talk) 07:58, 27 September 2013 (UTC)

Wayne Hoffman
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Non-notable stage magician; greatest claim to fame is things like being nominated by Princess Cruise Lines as "entertainer of the year" and occasionally appearances on syndicated shows. Orange Mike &#x007C;  Talk  23:34, 26 August 2013 (UTC) NOTE: This article was deleted once before, and recreated by User:Waynemagic, an account which is pretty obviously Hoffman himself. -- Orange Mike &#x007C;  Talk  23:38, 26 August 2013 (UTC)
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 * Keep - I feel that notability is established, although the references could definitely use some improvement. GSK ● ✉ ✓ 05:56, 29 August 2013 (UTC)
 * Delete A few short appearances, some shows at relatively minor venues, and some non-notable awards don't cut it. OhNo itsJamie Talk 01:31, 1 September 2013 (UTC)
 * Weak delete. In terms of reliable source coverage, all I could come up with were a bunch of event listings and some reviews in college papers.  Just doesn't seem like sufficient coverage to pass GNG.--Arxiloxos (talk) 05:05, 1 September 2013 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Relisting comment: Looking for some more energetic analysis and discussion. Other than the nomination, none of the comments here is particularly emphatic.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Orlady (talk) 21:41, 4 September 2013 (UTC)


 * Keep His performances and accomplishments are sufficent to warrant inclusion. Candleabracadabra (talk) 23:02, 4 September 2013 (UTC)
 * Which accomplishments? Not winning a reality TV show is not enough, and the Princess Cruises award is just puffery. --Colapeninsula (talk) 10:20, 5 September 2013 (UTC)


 * Merge (selectively) to Phenomenon (TV series) as non-winning reality TV contestant with only a smattering of generally low-level media coverage, almost all of which fails to meet WP:RS. There is some coverage of his reality TV appearance, but being non-top-five in a show that's not huge isn't enough for notability. Yahoo! Voices isn't a reliable source, at least based on the rather insulting WP article. Aside from that there's a local news story (WFMZ-TV in Allentown, PA). And there's PR fluff: Atlantic City Insiders seems tourist information/advertising rather than real news, and there's advertising puff from Princess Cruises and a few TV shows saying who they've got on. I'm just not seeing in-depth coverage in reliable sources independent from his reality TV appearance. --Colapeninsula (talk) 10:18, 5 September 2013 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Mark Arsten (talk) 04:14, 14 September 2013 (UTC)


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