Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Wayne Houchin


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.  

The result was delete. --Core desat 05:22, 4 August 2007 (UTC)

Wayne Houchin

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Combination of non-notable magician and spam for the magic seller he works for. Ghits are misleading as they are mostly referring to the effects he is marketing, or forum discussions. There appears to be no significant coverage in reliable sources, so fails WP:N. Saikokira 23:09, 25 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom, plus crystal ball stuff at the bottom. Nyttend 23:21, 25 July 2007 (UTC)


 * Keep - but needs to be re-written. Notability is not verified by independent sources, however his effects such as sinful, stigmata and indecent seem to have a significant take up in the magical tricks community based on google hits. Article style looks unprofessional, more like an ad for the magic effects themselves so needs rewriting. Statements like: "With 2006 came Houchin's self-produced second album, "Stigmata." It was his first solo project and second international best-seller" require citations. Uranometria 23:29, 25 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Comment -- The subject of this article is Wayne Houchin, not his effects. If you believe the effects are notable then create a seperate article for them. There are hundreds of popular magic effects on the market, that doesn't mean the creators of those effects are notable and should be added to Wikipedia. At least you agree that his "notability is not verified by independent sources", since that's the relevant issue here. Saikokira 00:25, 26 July 2007 (UTC)
 * -- True, but if his work gains notability then so does he. The places where his effects are mentioned also seem to mention him and his name as a form of credit. Uranometria 00:44, 26 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so that consensus may be reached. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,


 * Delete Could be the user; just self-promoting. If not, spam.  A Raider Like Indiana  00:29, 31 July 2007 (UTC)


 * Delete - the bulk of the article is a direct copy of an older bio from his site as found ont he wayback machine and thus is primarily a copyvio.  Removing that leaves not much else but the text of this effects.  The referenced review of his effect is a forum post.  Fails WP:RS. -- Whpq 22:09, 1 August 2007 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.