Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Weapon Brown


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was nominator withdrawn, with no opinions favouring deletion. (non-admin closure) Intelligent  sium  01:13, 21 April 2010 (UTC)

Weapon Brown

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Non-notable comic. Previously deleted via PROD and CSD, but I don't think WP:A7 quite applies here - it's not a company, person or web product. Nonetheless, I can't find even an assertion of notability here, let alone any evidence of it. A search for sources finds coverage in blogs and forums, but nothing by what we would consider a reliable source. Robofish (talk) 00:12, 19 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Comics and animation-related deletion discussions.  -- • Gene93k (talk) 17:20, 19 April 2010 (UTC)

I have to disagree with the idea that the comic isn't noteworthy. Weapon Brown is noteworthy for the manner in which the characters are parodied. Unlike Robot Chicken, which simply uses the original designs of the characters in a manner designed to mock the source material, Weapon Brown takes the characters, modifies their designs, and places them in all new settings and situations, presenting a parody that re-imagines the Peanuts gang in a way that, so far as I can tell, has never been done before. While it may be an independent comic, and a one-shot compiled from the first four issues of Deep Fried, the new material created specifically for the book, such as new material within A Peanut Scorned and the wholly new back-up story A Weapon Brown Christmas, makes Weapon Brown noteworthy as a comic, even if it didn't become a nationally known independent comic.

When one considers that there are articles for films, TV shows, and comics which are little known outside of particular areas, and in some cases may be so obscure many viewers of wikipedia don't even know they exist until they stumble across the article, I would consider it a disservice to this comic to delete the article on it just because it isn't a nationally known work. Furthermore, although it may not be the best argument for it, a search on the Weapon Brown comic I did, did produce a listing for an article- or so I would assume- for an article produced in a college magazine for the SUNY buffalo campus called Generation, which, if the link is still accurate as it appears to have a listing of various articles from the same issue, should be here: www.subboard.com/generation/articles/104615028054665.asp, that details information about the comic. If it will help matters, I will gladly post the link on the article itself. There are two other articles that came up in related searches, found at the following links: www.whatisdeepfried.com/2010/01/19/who-let-you-in-here/ and www.experiencefestival.com/weapon_brown.

While neither goes into extensive details about the comic, the comic itself is mentioned in both, indicating that people did find it noteworthy. In addition, I have a copy of the comic myself (I was the one who provided the scan of the cover for the one-shot) which I purchased while out in Buffalo, and can, if necessary, make listings within the article of references to where in the one-shot that the events listed in the article can be found, for anyone else who may have a copy to verify.

Furthermore, the comic is listed as having been published by the Death Ray Graphics company, and has the address to the author's website within it, which was provided within the article itself after I located it in the issue. The website, the last time I'd seen it, had been offering copies of the various issues of Deep Fried and the Weapon Brown one-shot for sale. Granted, this was a few years ago when I had seen the site and purchased anything from it, but this still notes that the issues are available through a website that produces items for sale via mailing distribution, giving people the possibility of purchasing copies of the issues themselves if they so wish.

I apologize in advance for the lengthiness of this reply, but after having gone to the trouble of creating the article after finding the comic in my collection again after years of disuse, I feel it is a disservice to simply delete it for not being well known when there are just as many other items that are likely as equally unknown by people until they see articles for them on Wikipedia, and which they may not feel to be noteworthy either, but remain on the site.

Warwolf1 (talk) 05:08, 20 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Keep. Warwolf, the nominator is saying the comic isn't Notable as per that link, which has a set of criteria. The easiest way to show something is notable is to show that reliable sources write about it. Generation Magazine, which you list, is one. Others include Comics Bulletin, Reporter (Rochester Institute of Technology student newspaper). Less notable but still not nothing: Jazma Online; Webcomic Overlook . --GRuban (talk) 18:08, 20 April 2010 (UTC)


 * Wow, good job finding sources, guys! OK, I can now accept that this comic is notable. Unless anyone else disagrees, consider this AFD withdrawn. Robofish (talk) 19:03, 20 April 2010 (UTC)
 * You're a good man, Robofish. :-). --GRuban (talk) 19:44, 20 April 2010 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.