Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Welsh crown jewels


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete‎__EXPECTED_UNCONNECTED_PAGE__. ✗ plicit  13:43, 14 June 2023 (UTC)

Welsh crown jewels

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The tl;dr summary is that this page is WP:OR and WP:SYNTH, creating an issue that does not exist. All factual content on this page was copied from elsewhere on Wikipedia in properly targeted articles and can be safely deleted here.

To expand on the summary, the page was created by copying a series of chunks of text from other pages,, , , and. These have been used to synthesise a subject, the Welsh crown jewels, that does not exist as a subject. No one talks about these items as being the Welsh crown jewels and no secondary source on this page even attempts to establish that as the title subject. WP:BEFORE does show that the term can be used to discuss the honours of the principality of Wales, , , used for the investiture of the prince of Wales, but this page is not about those. The page also contains a flag that has no provenance or sourcing. Much of the text is POVy retelling of the conquest of Wales, already covered in a range of other pages. Sirfurboy🏄 (talk) 12:56, 7 June 2023 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: History, United Kingdom,  and Wales. Sirfurboy🏄 (talk) 12:56, 7 June 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete Yet another article born out of nationalistic POV editor that has no merit. Per the nomination, the matters is discussed appropriately in other articles. Nobody in Wales make reference to the article title. It is total wishful, nationalistic, thinking.  Velella  Velella Talk 13:46, 7 June 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom and Velella. Those refs I was able to read bear little relation to the paragraphs they are supposed to source, and the whole article is written with such a blatant slant I could not see it being a useful part of Wikipedia.  Tony Holkham   (Talk)  13:55, 7 June 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete, it's another content fork created by an editor by copying large chunks from pre-existing articles (so presumably no need for any merging post-AfD). The final conjecture about Owain Glyndwr is completely unsourced. There's no evidence here that "welsh crown jewells" is an actual subject of study. Sionk (talk) 14:09, 7 June 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete Not an encyclopedic subject in its own right - all useful content is already included elsewhere. Llwyld (talk) 22:37, 7 June 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete. Term is only used for the Honours of the Principality of Wales, which is a potential redirect target. DrKay (talk) 16:32, 8 June 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete - I concur with the points raised above. As noted, the relevant material is covered by other articles in a more appropriate fashion. Dunarc (talk) 22:45, 8 June 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete  - I can support a delete based on lack of use for term. There may be a potential for Blow it up and start over if relevant sources are found and the avoidance of copy-edits. This would dependent on relevant research and sources. Titus Gold (talk) 22:24, 9 June 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete - per nom and above, that the author supports deletion too, and as a synth mashup of various articles it is more better explained at the original articles. The term is also sometimes used for the Honours of the Principality of Wales (largely absent here) which could be a redirect target, although this article gives the impression it could also redirect elsewhere, so better delete. WP:TNT could apply as long as sufficient sources use the title without the need for OR or SYNTH for notability, nor is it already covered by another existing article, nor is it a clear recreation following this discussion.  Dank Jae  15:14, 11 June 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete per above. The person who loves reading (talk) 17:01, 11 June 2023 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.