Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Wen Hui Chung Chen


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The result was   delete. Cirt (talk) 06:02, 1 November 2008 (UTC)

Wen Hui Chung Chen

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Not notable. See, for example, There does not appear to be enough reliable, third-party published sources independent of the subject and with a reputation for fact-checking and accuracy to maintain an independent article on this topic. -- Suntag  ☼  07:06, 27 October 2008 (UTC) *Weak Keep on the basis of the university presidency of what is now Fujian Normal University, an important university with international presence. There is probably information on this is appropriate printed Chinese language sources. I see no practical way of showing whether a 1940s period textbook was or was not widely us--it is presently in 28 WorldCat libraries, but since few libraries keep older textbooks in stock, that doesn't show much of anything one way or another. Incidentally,for searching, the Library of Congress form of the name is "Chén Wen-hui (Chung)" I do not see it in characters. There are almost   no WorldCat holdings for the pamphlets, & the only other publication listed is her PhD thesis  .DGG (talk) 16:44, 27 October 2008 (UTC)
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 * Keep. If the textbook Elementary Chinese Reader and Grammar they authored was widely used, they pass WP:PROF on that count. The United States Air Force publications appear to have been intended as textbooks for members of the U.S. military, so that's another pass of WP:PROF. Theodore Chen appears to have served briefly as president of Fukien University. Could someone add their Chinese names to the article, and add an interwiki link to the corresponding article in the Chinese Wikipedia, if there is one? -- Eastmain (talk) 15:45, 27 October 2008 (UTC)
 * I think you are mistaken regarding the university presidency. According to the article's text, it was not she but her husband was was (about to be) appointed to that post:"Mr. Chen had been asked to become the president of Fukien University". Nsk92 (talk) 21:38, 27 October 2008 (UTC)
 * yes, see below. Thanks for catching it---I read too rapidly. DGG (talk) 03:45, 29 October 2008 (UTC)


 * Delete. Her husband Theodore Chen appears to have been a notable academic but there is too little evidence of academic notability of Mrs Chen herself. According to the article's text, the highest academic post she had ever held was that of a university lecturer (a non-tenured position) at University of Southern California, while her husband had been a department chair and (although the record is not very clear) had also briefly been a university president at Fukien University. The only academic publications of Mrs Chen are joint with her husband. Sorry, but in a situation like this I would want to see some evidence of independent academic notability for passing WP:PROF. The WP:NOTINHERITED principle is applicable here. I think that the correct thing to do here is to create a new article for Theodore Chen and include some information about Mrs Chen there. Nsk92 (talk) 21:51, 27 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Weak Delete I spent some time trying to save this article, going to the extent of contacting the family. I would agree that her husband is probably more notable; for instance, I think he had some part in founding the national fraternity that she spoke to. She does have some academic publications on her own, but just articles (some of which were reprinted in the Air Force pamphlets). I think she deserves a solid mention in her husband's article, but not her own article. Brianyoumans (talk) 22:57, 27 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete My error aboutthe Presidency, and there is not enough information otherwise. Her husband, on the other hand, should have an article & she could be mentioned there with a redirect/. DGG (talk) 03:45, 29 October 2008 (UTC)
 * delete per Nsk92 & DGG, Pete.Hurd (talk) 03:34, 1 November 2008 (UTC)


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