Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Wendell Holland


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was redirect‎__EXPECTED_UNCONNECTED_PAGE__ to List of Survivor (American TV series) contestants. after no response to source analysis by editors advocating Keeping this article. Liz Read! Talk! 03:31, 13 September 2023 (UTC)

Wendell Holland

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Notable for just winning Survivor: Ghost Island after a tie with a runner-up. However, neither even being eliminated in Survivor: Winners at War nor being the first person eliminated in another reality series Beach Cabana Royale would make this person notable or qualified per WP:ENT. Neither would co-hosting a short-lived series Hot Mess House or being nominated for (but didn't win) People's Choice Award.

Furthermore, I don't think WP:SUSTAINED would potentially fix the article's issues with WP:PAGEDECIDE (or WP:BLP1E if applicable). Moreover, I'm unsure whether to add details about the subject's relationships seen in Survivor and the "manipulative" editing (primary source, regardless of publication) per WP:BLP policy. Should be redirected definitely to Survivor: Ghost Island (alternatively, if deemed more suitable, list of Survivor (American TV series) contestants). George Ho (talk) 22:57, 22 August 2023 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: People, Television, Law,  and Pennsylvania. George Ho (talk) 22:57, 22 August 2023 (UTC)

Relisting comment: Relisting as there is a disagreement about proposed Redirect targets. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 22:59, 29 August 2023 (UTC)
 * Redirect to List of Survivor (American TV series) contestants. Suitskvarts (talk) 09:22, 29 August 2023 (UTC)
 * Why not alternatively redirect to the season where this person won the game? George Ho (talk) 15:33, 29 August 2023 (UTC)
 * Personally, I'd be more comfortable getting from a name redirect to a list rather than a more complicated page, but I'm not opposed to the other option either Suitskvarts (talk) 13:32, 30 August 2023 (UTC)
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Relisting comment: Specific enumeration and discussion of sources which are claimed to establish notability would be very helpful. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Seraphimblade Talk to me 06:29, 6 September 2023 (UTC)
 * I actually don't oppose redirecting the article to the list. I was simply asking about the alternative. Why would you think so? --George Ho (talk) 23:13, 29 August 2023 (UTC)
 * Keep The sources indicate that she notable – someone does not need to be the winner of the show to be notable. DaniloDaysOfOurLives (talk) 23:26, 29 August 2023 (UTC)
 * (He.) Bgsu98   (Talk)  23:29, 29 August 2023 (UTC)
 * Sorry, typo. DaniloDaysOfOurLives (talk) 23:39, 29 August 2023 (UTC)
 * I don't know what sources you were referring to, but I don't think the sources covered him adequately in the context of him as an individual. The only time his gameplay in Winners at War was covered was original broadcast. Also, the only times his hosting was covered were also original broadcast of the shows he was in. That's as far as I have deducted. --George Ho (talk) 13:53, 30 August 2023 (UTC)
 * Keep, meets GNG and per DaniloDaysOfOurLives. Randy Kryn (talk) 00:43, 30 August 2023 (UTC)
 * REDIRECT to Survivor: Ghost Island. Bgsu98   (Talk)  12:07, 1 September 2023 (UTC)
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Any reliable sources I'm unaware of? George Ho (talk) 19:08, 6 September 2023 (UTC)
 * Unsure whether to use Daily Beast, which whose reliability remains undecided by consensus. The article primarily quotes Holland but only about different matter not primarily related to him.
 * This article doesn't (and shouldn't) count as it's citing The Daily Beast.
 * The House Digest article briefly mentions him as a host of an HGTV series, but the article is more about improving a house interior design or organizing house stuff, not about him primarily.
 * This Entertainment Weekly article is just an interview with the primary source himself, Holland. So is another EW article.
 * Unsure whether to use Distractify article to verify his notability. It cites EW interviews, social media, and even HGTV shows that he's in. Furthermore, the author was "hop[ing]" that Holland reveal more about his personal life to his fans.
 * Same about this article, which is more about the event he's co-hosting than Holland himself.
 * Men's Health article seems to indicate his notability, but it appears either on borderline or stepping over boundaries of WP:BLP. Or, rather it looks gossipy about his personal life.


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.