Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Wendy Phua


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.  

The result was delete.  Ry an P os tl et hw ai te  18:33, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

Wendy Phua

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Non-notable bass player who, no doubt, is good at her trade just doesn't have what's necessary to meet WP:MUSIC.  Web H amster  14:32, 11 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. --AndrewHowse (talk) 15:44, 11 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions.   -- the wub  "?!"  14:46, 11 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete - seems to be well on the way to becoming notable, but is still not there - yet. I was the one who first deleted this page and although some references have been added, none of them are detailed descriptions of this person herself (as opposed to descriptions of the band she was formerly a member of). For instance, the editor who created this page sourced the part about Gibson sponsoring her to a page on Gibson's own website - which is far from a independent reliable source for this info. And all the other references are like this one. Pegasus &laquo;C&brvbar;T&raquo; 16:07, 11 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment: if this page is deleted, the related page Between Here And Then (EP) should vanish as well. Pegasus &laquo;C&brvbar;T&raquo; 17:01, 11 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete All in all, fails WP:MUSIC. Undeath (talk) 03:58, 12 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment Dear administrators, I am behind the writing of the said article Wendy Phua and understand there are laws governing contents on the wikipedia as according to WP:MUSIC in this case. However I am confused as to why then, are article like http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E.P.I.C and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Potential_Problem allowed to stay up on wikipedia. They are like Wendy Phua a Singaporean band, and in fact these two bands are not even performing as regularly as Wendy Phua. I would appreciate if someone can be so kind as to enlighten me on this matter. Thanks for your time and consideration. User:Mohd.mnor —Preceding comment was added at 08:48, 12 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Reply (I'm not an admin). Those articlse can be subjected to a deletion debate. For this case, let's talk about the current subject. Please avoid argument such as: "What about article X?". Now, the solution is simple. Just provide non-trivial independent and reliable secondary sources that cover the subject, for instances, reviews or interviews. You should read our verifiability policy. Dekisugi (talk) 08:54, 12 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment Dear Dekisugi, it is to my knowledge that Wendy will be having an interview with an online music portal in Singapore regarding her EP and performances very soon. Would that comply with article 1 in WP:MUSIC under Criteria for musicians and ensembles where Wendy Phua is subject of non-trivial published works whose source is independent from the musician/ensemble itself and reliable? Pardon my questions but this is my first article and I'm trying to get along in understanding the various exact rules.Mohd.mnor (talk) 09:08, 12 February 2008 (UTC)User:Mohd.mnor
 * Reply - yes, if you can proof everybody can verify that. Since you said "she will be interviewed", then it isn't yet. Maybe you should wait when the interview is ready. For now, you can provide any sources available for the article to stay in Wikipedia (that's the rule here). Note: I've improved citation formats in the article. Some of the sources I found reliable enough, but I don't know if they are enough to support the notability issues that the other editors brought it up here. Dekisugi (talk) 09:13, 12 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment Dear Dekisugi, Thank you very much for your help. I will definitely continue updating the article with better reliable sources in the future, and will include the up-coming interview ASAP. Thanks Mohd.mnor (talk) 09:26, 12 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Weak keep. This article has improved since first being nominated for deletion. There is some evidence of coverage by outside sources, although there is perhaps more evidence that her former band Zhen would make for a notable article. Bondegezou (talk) 11:47, 13 February 2008 (UTC)


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