Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Werner G. Goering


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   delete. Black Kite (t)  00:37, 23 November 2011 (UTC)

Werner G. Goering

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Evidence that this individual was NOT the nephew of the Nazi Reichsmarschall. Only evidence to the contrary seems to be repetition of a recent myth RodCrosby (talk) 16:01, 13 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of People-related deletion discussions.  —Tom Morris (talk) 18:57, 13 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Military-related deletion discussions.  • Gene93k (talk) 22:56, 13 November 2011 (UTC)


 * Keep and speedy close - Nominator does not advance a policy-based reason for deletion. - The Bushranger One ping only 22:23, 15 November 2011 (UTC)
 * if that is a reference to me, I'm sorry but I am not familiar with the minutiae of policy terminology. However, I have advanced what appear to me to be common-sense reasons for deletion on the article talk page. RodCrosby (talk) 23:12, 15 November 2011 (UTC)
 * If Mr. Werner G. Goering actually exists, but is NOT the nephew of Hermann Goering, I think the article should be kept because he was a notable WWII bomber pilot, and to mention and spike the rumor or hoax. If he is H. G.'s nephew, then that is even more notable.  If Werner G. Goering never lived, that is a reason to delete the article.  24.27.31.170 (talk) 00:52, 18 November 2011 (UTC) Eric


 * Delete Notability is not inherited, the book used as a source Untold Valor: Forgotten Stories of American Bomber Crews Over Europe in World War Two links to a self published site The actual book does not mention this person on the page cited. The Last Angry Man (talk) 22:16, 16 November 2011 (UTC)
 * The book was originally an Xlibris book but was then picked up by Potomac Books, aka Brassey's, and does mention the fact. The 303rd Bomb Group Association's site  also states the concerned fact. - The Bushranger One ping only 23:15, 16 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete. If the claim is either true or a somehow notable hoax, it can be addressed in a sentence or two in the Hermann Göring article. Neutralitytalk 00:07, 17 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete – This subject doesn't appear to touch the floor per WP:GNG. As a threshold issue, there is a paucity of in-depth coverage; it's mostly passing mention. A glance at WP:SOLDIER doesn't provide any special grounds to argue, and it's an essay anyway. As Neutrality points out, the content most properly belongs at the Hermann Göring article. JFHJr (㊟) 07:54, 17 November 2011 (UTC)
 * posters on Axis History investigated the military service of Hermann Goering's relatives and descibe the US nephew story as "totally bogus". Werner Goering possibly might have been a very distant relative, but certainly not a nephew. Karl, the Reichsmarschall's brother died in Hannover in 1932, not in Salt Lake City! I suggest all mention of Werner should be removed. RodCrosby (talk) 14:54, 17 November 2011 (UTC)


 * Delete The only thing even close to lending notability is the assertion he's related to H. Goering, and other than the bare assertion there seems to be no comment on that idea or on the subject himself, outside of standard WWII military histories reciting interesting (which is not that same as notable) soldiers. One round, in a single work, of "interviewer says X, subject says X'" does not count any kind of notable controversy. A case of BLP(1/2)E. EEng (talk) 11:01, 18 November 2011 (UTC)
 * But for the exaggerated/tenuous/false relationship to Hermann, would Werner G. Goering otherwise merit inclusion in WP? Isn't that the question? RodCrosby (talk) 14:14, 18 November 2011 (UTC)
 * My point is that even if he were the nephew, I don't see that as making him notable, and without it I don't see notability either. EEng (talk) 16:28, 18 November 2011 (UTC)


 * Delete as no significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject. Cusop Dingle (talk) 21:27, 20 November 2011 (UTC)
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