Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/West Herr


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   delete. King of &hearts;   &diams;   &clubs;  &spades; 00:15, 9 May 2009 (UTC)

West Herr

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Article is about a car dealership company that does not seem to meet the inclusion criteria spelled out at either WP:N or WP:CORP. There is a single tenuous claim to notability about being named to some list of "great places to work" from some local magazine, and a list of "top dealers" in Automotive News but there does not seem to be enough coverage anywhere to meet the "significant coverage" or "independent coverage" clauses in WP:N Jayron32. talk . contribs 01:41, 2 May 2009 (UTC)

*Keep - Defended by references, it has received critical acclaim, which qualifies the article as notable. Also, I think that this article has been tagged far too early for deletion. The article is still new and hasn't had enough time to develop yet. I'm seeing a well-referenced article of a notable company. --Sky Attacker (talk) 02:46, 2 May 2009 (UTC) Delete - as per comments below. --Sky Attacker (talk) 04:24, 3 May 2009 (UTC)

**Comment--Sky Attacker has left me a note saying I should change my vote because I upset the balance at this AfD. Perhaps xe's right when xe says, on my talkpage, that "I don't know what I'm doing"--in that case, should I change my vote to keep the balance right? ;) Drmies (talk) 23:45, 2 May 2009 (UTC) **Comment The above user appears to be trying to stir a disruption on Wikipedia. While the first link is not part of the AfD debate (otherwise it would've been posted here) the second link is about a completely different situation that has NOTHING to do with THIS situation whatsoever. Ignore. --Sky Attacker (talk) 00:26, 3 May 2009 (UTC) *** Well, you said I don't know what I'm doing, so I'm jes askin' the good folks for advice... Drmies (talk) 00:37, 3 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of New York-related deletion discussions.  -- — LinguistAtLarge • Talk  02:46, 2 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete New? The article is new enough for the author to make ~40 edits to it, and move it because "it wasn't showing in search results." I'd say we have a (albeit well written) NPOV issue here. Fails WP:CORP, no significant media coverage (unless you count minor reviews/ratings as "significant"). flaminglawyer 03:38, 2 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete--well-written? No, spam, and not a notable company. The references and accolades are all minor honors handed out locally. Drmies (talk) 05:10, 2 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete a heavily SEO'ed company obviously looking to boost their hits by way of a wikipedia article. Notability not established. Gigs (talk) 09:44, 2 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete. While it will be a pity to see the phrase "an unrepresented 4 times" be expunged from the project, I have been unable to find (after good-faith search) any reliable non-trivial third-party coverage of the company. The article itself advances a non-neutral POV, but that could be expunged. Hence, that (while true) is not the basis of my opinion to delete. Bongo  matic  01:20, 3 May 2009 (UTC)

This is my first attempt at writing for Wikipedia, I struggled with the initial pages, hence the 40 edits. West Herr is a 1200 employee company and is hardly insignificant. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Kbleigh (talk • contribs) 22:14, 3 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Comment Several citations have been added recently. If the article is deleted, I think it would be nice to userfy it. More coverage may happen in the future... ChildofMidnight (talk) 18:09, 6 May 2009 (UTC)
 * I had seen those citations before commenting here. They appear to be essentially verbatim copies of press releases. Bongo  matic  22:22, 6 May 2009 (UTC)

The owners of West Herr are very humble and very seldom give interviews or report their successes or boast about their contributions. Add to that the fact that our local newspaper the Buffalo News Archives articles to sell them instead of making them public, makes it extremely hard to prove some of the facts about West Herr. Please offer other suggested ways to cit. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Kbleigh (talk • contribs) 01:40, 8 May 2009 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.