Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/West Herts TV walled garden


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.  

The result of the debate was delete. –  Sceptr e  ( Talk  ) 10:36, 10 April 2006 (UTC)

West Herts TV articles
I stumbled across what appears to be a walled garden related to an obscure local cable TV channel in the UK, with repeated namechecks of the same names - as if nobody else was involved, in fact. One, Colin Toms, was mostly an attack page and I listed it separately, but the balance are essentially a series of articles which are rnotable only in relation to each other. My parents live in the target area and have never heard if this lot, not that this is conclusive. The entire set of articles is uncited, and appears unverifiable.


 * Google for West Herts TV gets 40 hits, mostly mirrors
 * Google for West Herts Sports Round Up gets nine hits, all Wikipedia, all within this walled garden
 * Google for "Channel 10" "West Herts" gets 35 hits, almost all Wikipedia & mirrors

I can't find a single reliable source to support the idea that this lot ever existed at all, let alone that they were worthy of note. Virtually every mention is either one of these articles or a link to them placed in some other Wikipedia article.

The articles are:
 * Chris Scott (television presenter)
 * Parallel Pictures
 * Sideburn (TV series)
 * Sideburn (TV program) (redirect)
 * Channel 10 (West Herts)
 * West Herts Sports Round Up
 * Sportscene
 * West Herts TV
 * Lynn Rothwell

All are the work of one editor,, on a single day. Jan 31, 2006. Just zis Guy you know? 15:32, 4 April 2006 (UTC)


 * Keep Channel 10 (West Herts), Sportscene, and West Herts TV, no vote on the rest. In general, mass nominations like this are a bad idea.  Extra points are awarded to the nominator for citing 0 parent hits.  Silensor 15:40, 4 April 2006 (UTC)
 * What do you mean by "citing 0 parent hits"?


 * Delete all as non-notable and/or per WP:V. Zero non-Wikipedia hits for "West Herts TV" on Google, and this was the Internet age already. A channel that supposedly "broadcast for only a few hours a week" during a few years in a very limited area is hardly notable, and its shows more so. Incidentally, I for one welcome our think that mass nominations of this sort are a good idea. Sandstein 19:11, 4 April 2006 (UTC)
 * Yes, I thought hard about it, but oin the end the whole lot is a walled garden and they can safely be considered as one, since none is apparently notable except by reference to the others. As you note, the channel is not a full-time channel, and it's not even in the listings my parents have (they live in St. Albans, where I grew up - and I've never heard of any of these either).  There is a vast difference between an local US cable channel and a local British one, in terms of audience (both potential and actual). Just zis Guy you know? 22:18, 4 April 2006 (UTC)


 * Delete all as non-notable. Death to walled gardens. Kafziel 19:31, 4 April 2006 (UTC)
 * Keep anything verifiable. For great justice. 00:40, 5 April 2006 (UTC)
 * Er, what exactly do you mean to keep? One of the problems is that nothing of all this seems to be on Google or otherwise verifiable. Sandstein 04:39, 5 April 2006 (UTC)
 * Sandstein is right - keep anything verifiable in this case means delete the lot, since none of it is verifiable. I could not find a single reliable source for West Herts TV ever existing, in fact - Wikipedia is the principal reference on Google. Just zis Guy you know? 15:07, 5 April 2006 (UTC)


 * Merge/Delete - This is like having an article for every reporter in my local paper. And then a separate article for every section and pull out of the paper.  Merge everything with West Herts TV. - Hahnch  e  n 04:08, 5 April 2006 (UTC)
 * Delete all per nom. --Khoikhoi 05:15, 5 April 2006 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.