Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/West Marine Ltd. (Peel Engineering)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.  

The result was Merge and redirect to Peel Engineering Company, without prejudice to recreation. Moonriddengirl (talk) 21:04, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

West Marine Ltd. (Peel Engineering)

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No evidence in the page that the subject meets the notability criteria, the article is not written from a neutral point of view and the page seems little more than an advertisment. Guest9999 15:46, 21 October 2007 (UTC)


 * Delete - I agree with the above comment. Businessman332211 16:04, 21 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Comment - I see no possible way in which this article could be considered an advertisement (the company is long gone) or POV violation. It is simply a neutral description of the company, its products, and history.  The nominator is active in deletion nominations, so before nominating any business articles on those grounds I suggest some effort to become more familiar with them.  Wikidemo 18:19, 26 October 2007 (UTC)


 * Merge and redirect to Peel Engineering Company. This looks like a historically valid place, but seems better to add to the short Peel article since it is just the trading name of the Peel boats.Obina 16:45, 21 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Keep and possibly merge with the parent company, which is an editing question. This is a descriptive article about a number of notable boats, not an advertisement for the manufacturer. Just look at it. DGG (talk) 16:57, 22 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Business-related deletions.   -- Gavin Collins 10:27, 26 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Merge per Obina, as this subsidiary is not notable in itself. --Gavin Collins 10:29, 26 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Merge and redirect to Peel Engineering Company without prejudice to recreation if a sufficient material and sources can be found for its own article. West Marine Ltd. (not to be confused with a rather large marine company named "West Marine" out of the States) manufactured various lines of boats, cars, and other motorized things out of a single factory on the Isle of Man.  That's probably enough to be notable if it really is distinct as a subsidiary and not just a shell corporation that is an alter ego for Peel Engineering.  However, it closed many years ago so the sources, if there are any, are probably mostly offline in print and microfilm, not the kind of thing we can easily find with Google.  If someone goes through the effort and wants to establish notability, let them.  But that's too much to ask of us now, and as the material now stands it's more useful and encyclopedic for the two articles to be merged.  Wikidemo 18:15, 26 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Keep I created this page as from various people I got the impression, a lot was known about the car side of the company (which was the famous side) but not a lot of information is widley known about the rest of the company. The information on this page has been created from information found out from people, who worked at the company and advertisments. If this is deleted, you might as well remove most of wikipedia for example vast pages of Doctor Who or Doctor (Doctor Who) as things like this take up far more room and its not even real! jingo83 20:089, 27 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete. No independent sources.  Peel Engineering Company is open to the same criticism.  Please add independent secondary sources that show that someone else has written about the company or its products.  --SmokeyJoe 23:40, 28 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Keep I think my point has been missed. There are only two places in the world where this you can find this information. One is here the other is to wonder around the Isle of Man like I have and find out from people who were worked there, as there is no books on the subject. And the other is here. I will not bother to recollect it from people so once its gone, its gone for good. jingo83 18:48, 28 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Keep The stub requires a complete rewrite but in relation to manufacturing on the Isle of Man, this company was significant. Mighty Antar 12:18, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Keep per DGG and Mighty Antar -- or merge the content per Wikidemo. (Some of the others' arguments are of the WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS sort.) Bearian 17:01, 30 October 2007 (UTC)


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