Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/West Topoli, Kupiansk Raion, Kharkiv Oblast

After the AFD closed, this article was moved to Topoli (rural-type settlement) and the redirect was deleted as per the discussion at WP:Redirects for discussion/Log/2023 July 15 Nfitz (talk) 06:25, 11 February 2024 (UTC)


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The result was keep‎__EXPECTED_UNCONNECTED_PAGE__. Clear consensus with no users thinking it should be deleted except the nominator. There were some discussions about renaming, but those can be made on the articles talk page. (non-admin closure) - 🔥𝑰𝒍𝒍𝒖𝒔𝒊𝒐𝒏 𝑭𝒍𝒂𝒎𝒆 (𝒕𝒂𝒍𝒌)🔥 00:30, 12 May 2023 (UTC)

West Topoli, Kupiansk Raion, Kharkiv Oblast

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Another contested draft without improvement. If there was some proof that this was a legally recognized populated place, it would pass WP:GEOLAND, but there is not. Not enough in-depth sourcing to meet WP:GNG.  Onel 5969  TT me 10:18, 1 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Geography and Ukraine.  Spiderone (Talk to Spider) 10:31, 1 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Keep but rename. There are two settlements in the Kupiansk region called Topoli, a village (село) and a settlement (селище). This is uk:Тополі (селище). --Yakudza (talk) 14:44, 1 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Keep per WP:GEOLAND. Appears to be a separate, recognised settlement. -- Necrothesp (talk) 10:21, 2 May 2023 (UTC)


 * Keep. It appears on the Ukrainian postal service’s map, and in Google and Apple Maps. Ukrainian Wikipedia gives its KATOTTH code as UA63080050510096060, and says that educator Лукашова Ніна Іванівна was born there. Web search finds the corresponding KOATUU code as 6321881509 (anyone know how to confirm this?). By the way, the uk transwiki link appears to be wrong, and I believe the correct corresponding article is Тополі (Куп'янський район, село). —Michael Z. 17:40, 2 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Keep. The Ukrainian postal service recognises it as a separate settlement. Other articles with less sourcing than this on the same topic have also passed.
 * Thanks, Wikieditor019 (If I do not respond, please visit my talk page) 18:57, 2 May 2023 (UTC)


 * Comment - none of those are actual reasons based on policy. Being on the postal service map is not an indication it's a legally recognized populated place. Onel 5969  TT me 19:39, 2 May 2023 (UTC)
 * How so? Postal service is fulfilling its legal mandate. Anyway, KOATUU and KATOTTH codes certainly are indications. —Michael Z. 05:52, 3 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Sorry, that's incorrect. For example, there are subdivisions or former railstops, in the United States who had or have postal service recognition, but are not actually legally recognized populated places.  Onel 5969  TT me 08:24, 3 May 2023 (UTC)
 * You’re referring to unpopulated places, which this is not. —Michael Z. 15:15, 11 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Comment: This is a redirect, to Topoli (rural town). The discussion here seems to indicate that people believe this is not another name for Topoli, but rather a separate settlement in its own right. If that is the case, the result here should not be to "keep" the redirect; it should be to develop it into an article of its own. -- MelanieN (talk) 04:02, 11 May 2023 (UTC)
 * That's because the article was moved during the AFD, which is strongly discouraged. Stifle (talk) 08:29, 11 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Indeed it is. Not even moved to a standard disambiguator. Moved back. -- Necrothesp (talk) 10:01, 11 May 2023 (UTC)


 * Keep: populated location and as per Michael Z's arguments above. Jack4576 (talk) 16:00, 11 May 2023 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.