Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Western Azerbaijan (political concept)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   keep. (non-admin closure) Alpha Quadrant    talk    23:36, 23 September 2011 (UTC)

Western Azerbaijan (political concept)
According to google books, Notability cannot be established. Probably this concept/name is Original research.


 * Yeraz + "Western Azerbaijan" (all language) - 0
 * Yeraz + "Qərbi Azərbaycan" (all language) - 0
 * irredentism "Western Azerbaijan" - 5, but all of them are irrelevant.

Sources that was used in the article, have no direct relation with "Western Azerbaijan (political concept)". So sources don't prove notability of "Western Azerbaijan (political concept)".

Takabeg (talk) 03:57, 17 September 2011 (UTC)


 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Armenia-related deletion discussions.  —Takabeg (talk) 05:27, 17 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Azerbaijan-related deletion discussions.  —Takabeg (talk) 05:27, 17 September 2011 (UTC)


 * Keep This delete nomination is ungrounded. If you cant find the name in google books it doesnt mean you can nominate an article for deletion. This article has plenty of sources but it doesnt suit Takabeg's personal view, however that is not an argument for deletion. But even your argument regarding the sources do not stand. Why are you even searching for Yeraz? Azerbaijan" has plenty of academic sources - 1600 to be exact. Also search Armenia "Western Azerbaijan" - this show you additional sources. For example this source on page 30 mentions: "Western Azerbaijan to eastern Turkey, including many Armenian regions." Neftchi (talk) 08:58, 17 September 2011 (UTC)


 * Is a source that you mentioned this one (Lonely Planet) ? Takabeg (talk) 10:13, 17 September 2011 (UTC)


 * You havent addressed my arguments. The fact remains that you cant just nominate an article for deletion for its title. The lead clearly says its a political concept used in Azerbaijan, as can be seen in various official Azerbaijani sources:, , etc. So its not original research but a phrase used in Azerbaijan even by its officials. Aside that the body text has plenty of sources and you just want to throw everything in the bin. Thats against Wiki regulations, so consider this a warning. Neftchi (talk) 20:35, 18 September 2011 (UTC)

Note This article was nominated for a deletion before in October 2010 and it was declined. So this second nomination really has no ground. See here for the earlier declination. Neftchi (talk) 15:03, 19 September 2011 (UTC)


 * Keep. The article was kept after prior deletion proposal, as mentioned above, so no ground for renomination. And there are sufficient sources to establish the geographical application. Atabəy (talk) 18:09, 20 September 2011 (UTC)


 * Weak delete. I have little doubt that such an irredentist concept exists in some circles in Azerbaijan but the point is that we no reliable source to talk about it in detail. Instead, what most of this article tries to do is justify the use of such a term on the basis of history and demographics - we have no real works written by political scientists to explain, for example, where this theory cropped up from and how great a support it has in Azerbaijan. Unless some are introduced, this article should be deleted.--Marshal Bagramyan (talk) 04:30, 21 September 2011 (UTC)


 * Keep - Sources use this term in the context of being a political and geographic concept:, , , . Northamerica1000 (talk) 07:01, 21 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Comment – It's also worthy to note that the previous AfD for this article resulted in "Speedy keep". Northamerica1000 (talk) 07:03, 21 September 2011 (UTC)


 * Comment None of those above examples refer to the political concept of Western Azerbaijan, and in some cases they aare referring to province of West Azerbaijan in modern Iran. The "speedy keep" was a result of many editors not knowing what this article was purportedly about - an actual geographic term, an irredentist term, etc. Now that we have a better idea of what it is but lack the sources to support it, its deletion can be considered anew.--Marshal Bagramyan (talk) 16:33, 21 September 2011 (UTC)


 * Keep. The sources in the article are sufficiently giving a reason for Keep. Western Azerbaijan is a political concept as the article title points out already. I don't understand why these nominating editors dispute that. The term is widely used. So, keep. Ladytimide (talk) 17:09, 21 September 2011 (UTC)
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