Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/What Are We Waiting For


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was redirect to Now United. Applies to all songs below, but since they were not properly tagged editors will have to do this manually and it can be reverted if contested.  Sandstein  13:58, 4 October 2020 (UTC)

What Are We Waiting For

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Fails WP:NSONG. An editor is very keen on creating articles for every song by this teen pop group, even though none of them appear to have charted anywhere in the world, and none of them appear to be notable. The editor has reverted all attempts to redirect the articles to the group's page or their discography, so I am bringing this one to AfD as a test case to see if other editors think the articles are notable – all of them follow this article's format of a line or two about where the video was filmed (not evidence of notability), and another line or two about the TV shows where the song was performed as promotion, and that's it. Of the sources in the article, the first Billboard article and the UOL article don't mention the song at all, the second Billboard source is literally a passing mention of the release of the video, the Febreteen source is a Brazilian teen magazine which isn't an RS and only exists as a promotional link to "watch the video below", and the Pagina Zero source is just a title with no content whatsoever. I can't find any reliable sources talking about this song. The only part of WP:NMUSIC that could possibly be met here is criterion 5 of WP:NALBUM, as the group performed the song on a TV show to promote it, but as that criterion suggests, if all that can be said about the song is "it was performed on The Late Late Show with James Corden" then it would be better to note this in one sentence in the group's article, not devote a separate article to it. Richard3120 (talk) 19:37, 23 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Update: another SPA editor has added two links to a Swedish TV channel's website – the first link doesn't mention the song at all, the second only includes its name in a listing of the program's schedule. They also added three links to the group performing at the 2019 Champions League final, one of which doesn't mention the group at all, and the other two only mention their name in passing and none of their songs. Richard3120 (talk) 22:49, 23 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Albums and songs-related deletion discussions. Richard3120 (talk) 19:38, 23 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Music-related deletion discussions. Richard3120 (talk) 19:38, 23 September 2020 (UTC)


 * Delete All (changed from Delete to Delete All due to below): I left the auhtor a message a while ago about all the stubs they were creating that do not meet GNG or NSONG, someone else also left a message in this regard, but nothing has changed. Most of these stubs need to be deleted and redirected.   // Timothy ::  talk  00:30, 24 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete Fails WP:NSONG and WP:GNG (I was the other editor who left a message on the creator's talk page). --John B123 (talk) 19:16, 24 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete all, I compiled a list of all the articles the blocked user created that does not show any signs of notability, all the songs show no indication of charting anywhere or even a nomination for any major awards. All the sources are just coverage from Portuguese blog sites and do not adequately constitute significant coverage. ɴᴋᴏɴ21  ❯❯❯  talk  00:05, 25 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Summer in the City (Now United song)
 * Who Would Think That Love?
 * All Day (Now United song)
 * How We Do It
 * Beautiful Life (Now United song)
 * Afraid of Letting Go
 * Sundin Ang Puso
 * Paraná (song)
 * Sunday Morning (Now United song)
 * Like That (Now United song)
 * You Give Me Something (Now United song)
 * Legends (Now United song)
 * Na Na Na (Now United song)
 * Let Me Be the One (Now United song)
 * Live This Moment
 * Hoops (Now United song)
 * Dana Dana (Now United song)
 * Let the Music Move You
 * Nobody Fools Me Twice
 * Disambiguate: Barely found any independent coverage about the song. However, the title is common and a number of songs carry that name. Hence, disambiguating it is the way to go. ASTIG😎  (ICE T • ICE CUBE) 05:20, 25 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Common? It seems that this is the only Wikipedia article to have this song name. ɴᴋᴏɴ21  ❯❯❯  talk  23:00, 25 September 2020 (UTC)
 * , there's a song with the same name from Amiina, but it's redirected to one of its albums. That said, neither of those songs are notable. ASTIG😎  (ICE T • ICE CUBE) 16:00, 27 September 2020 (UTC)


 * Delete all of the songs in the list compiled by Nkon21 above. Or, if anyone is particularly concerned about alternatives to deletion, Redirect all to Now United. The nominator is correct about the originally-nominated song and his reasoning applies to all the others to varying degrees. Some of the songs made the charts in scattered countries but for purposes of brevity this can be mentioned at the group's page. All of the articles are overwhelmingly fancruft (or "managercruft"), as it takes a certain mindset to assume that every single one the group's songs deserve separate promotional articles, and note the so-called "Controversies" in several of them, which are just the imagined complaints of a few TV viewers supposedly outraged about their language being excluded. ––  DOOMSDAYER 520 (TALK&#124;CONTRIBS) 00:52, 27 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Per a recommendation below, the better redirect target is Now United discography, but I still recommend deleting everything. ––  DOOMSDAYER 520 (TALK&#124;CONTRIBS) 20:02, 28 September 2020 (UTC)


 * Redirect all to Now United: As much as my disambiguate stands in one of the articles, redirecting them to the target article is still the way to go. I barely found any independent coverage about them. ASTIG😎  (ICE T • ICE CUBE) 16:00, 27 September 2020 (UTC)
 * If the pages are not deleted and instead redirected, then I think a better target would be Now United discography. ɴᴋᴏɴ21  ❯❯❯  talk  01:57, 28 September 2020 (UTC)


 * Delete for lack of notability. Even the mentions of each song in Now United don't help their cause. However, because none of the other articles except one have been tagged for AFD, bold redirects will have to suffice. Another option is to tag them and let this play out for another 7 days. Star cheers peaks news lost wars Talk to me 09:15, 28 September 2020 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.