Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/What Happened on the Moon


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   - Delete - Peripitus (Talk) 12:06, 6 August 2008 (UTC)

What Happened on the Moon

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Fails WP:NF. ScienceApologist (talk) 21:48, 31 July 2008 (UTC)


 * Delete unless significant coverage in multiple secondary sources can be found to establish notability. Vquex (talk) 22:58, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep its notableMY♥IN chile  23:21, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
 * What references do you have to confirm that it is notable? Vquex (talk) 00:56, 1 August 2008 (UTC)


 * Delete Fringe or not, there does not seem to be any evidence that this particular film is notable. DGG (talk) 01:34, 1 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep There's always someone interested in conspiracy theories... and the more people, the greater the notabilty. And I had to keep in mind the very first sentence of Verifiability. Sources giving coverage: Aulis.com, Ufos-aliens.com, Moonmovie.com: listings of moon hoax films and mini-reviews or same, Moviesfoundonline.com; review with reader comments, Amazon.com: review, MiniNova: review, Clavius: review of Aulis article, University of Life: review near the bottom of page, AllExperts.com: review, BillKaysing.com: mention at bottom of page, Ufos-Aliens: film mentioned in article, Gyandotcom: review... and there are dozens upon dozens more... and of course, and eventhough blogs are not sources, all the discourse about the film at the blogs (some rather inciteful) show an interest in the film and the subject matter:, , , ... ad infinitum. I personally believe the film and the theory are a total crock, but there are many who take this stuff seriously. Under Verifiability and Notability I have to vote keep. Yikes. Michael Q. Schmidt (talk) 04:03, 1 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete (vote change). Just watched enough of this film 's tripe to want to vomit. I do not wish to support this article. The entire theory is conspiracy theory hogwash. The film presents opinion, half-truth, and misleading inuendo in a calm and pseudo-scientific documentary style... using a format that makes this appear as if such were proof. The filmmaker IS a fringe loon who is making money off the ignorance of others. The article's inclusion in Wiki lends it a validation and a dignity it does not deserve. Dump it. Michael Q. Schmidt (talk) 22:22, 1 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Struck my personal opinion. Stand by vote. Schmidt (talk) 07:38, 2 August 2008 (UTC)


 * At a first pass through that list: BillKaysing's website and Ufos-aliens.com (listed twice) do not meet WP:RS; the AllExperts site is a scrape of this article, and Aulis are trying to sell the DVDs, as are Moonmovie.com. &mdash; BillC talk 20:41, 1 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Film-related deletion discussions.   —PC78 (talk) 02:06, 1 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete lots of passing mentions but no actual evidence of notability and the article reads as WP:OR. Guy (Help!) 07:30, 1 August 2008 (UTC)
 * KEEP. While the article badly needs inline citations, maintenance is not a reason for deletion. It is a film, and documents the continuing controversy about whether the event happened. While any sane person knows that this is a nutter's point of view, it is not our job to pass judgment on the nutters. The material is verifiable, the article well written, and with some sourcing would be an fine Start Class article. Jeffpw (talk) 16:38, 1 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete Fringe viewpoint conspiracy theory, which even claims that the U.S. and the U.S.S.R were in cahoots from WW2 through all the Apollo landings, with fake Russian radios on the Moon to simulate astronaut transmissions, so well that all observers around the world were fooled, even radiotelescopes tracking the capsules. This film often rehashes old balderdash already covered at Apollo Moon Landing hoax conspiracy theories and receives appropriate brief mention there. This article is referenced to things like conspiracy blogs and user generated reviews at Amazon. No reliable sources with substantial coverage of the film. Fails notability as a film. An article which supports a pseudoscientific fringe view in a non-notable film without reliable sources to show the film has received any substantial coverage in the mainstream press or in scientific journals. Edison (talk) 19:09, 1 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete, fails notability. See my reply beneath Michael Q. Schmidt's comment. &mdash; BillC  talk 20:41, 1 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment What happened to this documentary? The article doesn't indicate that it's ever been distributed or shown anywhere, despite the efforts of the producer (whose claim to fame seems to be only this documentary).  Unless it's shown that this has been shown, David S. Percy is probably next.   Mandsford (talk) 01:01, 2 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Response to comment: Shown...? No. Video snippets are easily viewable on Youtube and others., . You can watch the entire film at Google Video.. Percy and Aaulis are making a fortune selling it to the ignorant.,, , , et al. This fraud is a disservice to Wiki. Schmidt (talk) 02:30, 2 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete, fails notability I don't think that getting a tape sold in Amazon, which they didn't bother to review either, gives this notability.  The only links to this or the author are to talk about how non-notable this "movie" was.  About the same level of notability as most youtube movies.Advocate 05:26, 5 August 2008 (UTC)  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Advocate70 (talk • contribs)
 * Delete as per Advocate70. Bondegezou (talk) 11:13, 5 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete per Edison and BillC. Cliff smith  talk  16:08, 5 August 2008 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.