Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/What Lies Beneath (Tarja album)


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The result was   delete.  MBisanz  talk 14:29, 2 February 2009 (UTC)

What Lies Beneath (Tarja album)

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Contested PROD - this album has yet to come out and what information is available appears to be entirely sourced to a blog entry (which, incidentally, is almost the entire content of this article). Per WP:CRYSTAL, I don't believe it is appropriate to have an article on this album at this time. Hers fold  (t/a/c) 07:31, 28 January 2009 (UTC)


 * Delete Blog entry is from the musician's own blog, and as such it is a valid source about herself. However, per WP:Crystal, as yet it's too early to list the album. Page should be recreated only when album is externally reviewed. LK (talk) 10:39, 28 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete, unless coverage in independent sources can be demonstrated. It's hard to justify an encyclopedia article when only vague information from the artist's own blog is available to reference; no prejudice against recreating the article once the album has been released and reviewed. ~ mazca  t 19:22, 28 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Comment Why once the album has been released and reviewed? There are lots and lots of articles about upcoming albums on Wikipedia, many of which even the title is not known yet of. Why is this one treated differently, and so much more strictly? This is hardly fair. Is there an official policy or guideline on how to treat such articles, even? I can't find anything. Florian Blaschke (talk) 14:04, 31 January 2009 (UTC)

*Comment We often have articles for upcoming media releases, but I agree that the article is very poorly sourced as it stands. I'm not sure whether to support its deletion, or propose leaving it as it is since the album's release isn't very far off. 74.242.119.77 (talk) 21:33, 1 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep The album has been mentioned by numerous third parties. The real issue I think is that people want English language stuff; they often miss foreign news articles. Nonethelss, we have: @music, Soundsblog, Território da Música, Metal Underground (in English!), Blabbermouth.net (a notable subject in its own right, and also in English), Braveworlds.com (English) and some pre-title information in English from Metal From Finland and again from Blabbermouth. Blood Red Sandman  (Talk)   (Contribs) 14:59, 1 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete This is mostly fancruft / promotion. The same user is contributing information about the release on WikiNews 74.242.119.77 (talk) 21:45, 1 February 2009 (UTC)
 * One, we don't capitalise the N. It's Wikinews. Two, Yeah, that's how I found both that there were sources (researching for the article) and that WP had an article. I was surprised, as a title isn't much to go on, but a string of sources came up. Three, I'm not 'the same user' apart from the same user as commented in this AfD. I have never edited the article we are discussing, and did not know of its existence until I began looking into doing somethin for WN. Blood Red Sandman  (Talk)   (Contribs) 22:13, 1 February 2009 (UTC)


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