Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/What were they like?


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   delete.  Sandstein  05:32, 15 May 2009 (UTC)

What were they like?

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contested prod, no indication of how this poem is notable. RadioFan (talk) 19:51, 7 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete no assertion of significance or importance, may even be a copyvio to post the entire text. I don't think it is a likely search term so no reason to redirect to Denise Levertov. -Drawn Some (talk) 20:02, 7 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete, because, among other things, we are not a poetry archive. -- Dennis The Tiger   (Rawr and stuff) 21:05, 7 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Comment - have deleted the full text of the poem from the article, as it is surely copyrighted. Maralia (talk) 00:55, 8 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Hey, yeah, what the hell??? I wrote the entire thing, the only thing I copied was the actual poem from an internet page it took me an hour to find, (piles had random mistakes) and it is notable as it is the main reason Denise Levertov went to jail, as mentioned in the past article i wrote which was deleted by people who thought it was copied from something. here's an idea, send a message and ask if it's copyrighted before deleting it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by XX EOIN XX (talk • contribs) 18:28, 10 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Eoin, the copyright problem is a side note, and copy and paste from a webpage is generally not kosher - see the link at the beginning here. Where we are having an issue is in whether this is actually something notable.  Yeah, Ms. Levertov got arrested, and that's no fun, but let's also consider whether she is notable as well.  In that case a link from an article about her would be kosher.  Unless this can meet these constraints, then this is not material for Wikipedia.  -- Dennis The Tiger   (Rawr and stuff) 03:16, 11 May 2009 (UTC)
 * The poet Denise Levertov certainly meets our notability requirements herself. However, the notability of this poem has not been established. The article on the poem itself does not mention that it is "the main reason Denise Levertov went to jail"; indeed, it makes no argument for notability beyond 'a famous poet wrote this poem'—and Levertov's article does not even mention an arrest. The missing piece of the puzzle here is that as yet, we have no evidence of significant coverage of this poem in reliable sources.
 * As to the copyright issue: the article does not state how and when the poem was published. I think it was in 1971 in To Stay Alive, which would absolutely still be under copyright in the US. Maralia (talk) 04:08, 11 May 2009 (UTC)


 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so consensus may be reached. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,  SilkTork  *YES! 21:49, 14 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Comment what is hoped to be gained from relisting this? To date we've got 3 !votes for deleting citing notability issues and some concerns about copyvio and 1 !vote for keeping it from the article creator.  --RadioFan (talk) 03:35, 15 May 2009 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.