Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Wheelchair rugby at the 2018 Invictus Games


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The result was merge to 2018 Invictus Games. There is a clear consensus against maintaining these as separate articles, but the determination of their fate beyond that is unclear. The balance of consensus would appear to favor maintaining this information in the parent article, so there it will go. bd2412 T 14:13, 21 November 2018 (UTC)

Wheelchair rugby at the 2018 Invictus Games

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The Games are notable; but each individual sport is not. The routine coverage refers to the games as a whole and not each individual sport. Sportsfan 1234 (talk) 22:34, 28 October 2018 (UTC) Also nominating:

There are a lot of templates on both pages which would become unused if these pages were to be deleted. Can they be discussed with this discussion? Sportsfan 1234 (talk) 22:37, 28 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Events-related deletion discussions.  CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 06:06, 29 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Games-related deletion discussions.  CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 06:06, 29 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Australia-related deletion discussions.  CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 06:06, 29 October 2018 (UTC)


 * Delete all per nom. While the Invictus Games are very worthwhile and notable, it's a non-professional competition and individual events have received little coverage. Nick-D (talk) 09:15, 29 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete all per nom.  Lugnuts  Fire Walk with Me 10:01, 29 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Sports-related deletion discussions. Thsmi002 (talk) 13:11, 29 October 2018 (UTC)


 * Comment I've nominated the 16 Rugby templates for deletion at TfD already. power~enwiki ( π, ν ) 16:45, 29 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Keep into 2018 Invictus Games. I'd suggest merging but the resulting main article might become unwieldy. The games are notable, so this is an appropriate place record results. Yes, it's a non-professional competition (although I'm not sure that message got through to the public) but the coverage and crowds were much greater than many expected, leaving the APC and the sports bodies with a great deal to to contemplate. The quality of the coverage (especially compared to that of the Winter Paralympics) has had an impact that will be felt for years to come. The crowds and public interest had the APC and the sports bodies contemplating the format of future events. So too did the amount of money raised.   Hawkeye7   (discuss)  21:29, 2 November 2018 (UTC)


 * The wheelchair rugby seems to have attracted widespread coverage in reliable sources Australian newspaperAustralian ArmyUK newsAustralian radioBCCSydney Morning HeraldUnited States  Hawkeye7   (discuss)  21:44, 2 November 2018 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Keep per Hawkeye7. Wheelchair rugby has always been one of the more prominent paralympic sports, so I'm not surprised that such sources exist. Other sources that I also found. ABC stuff.co.nz Western Star from Newfoundland, Canada. Patar knight - chat/contributions 04:11, 4 November 2018 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America1000 12:46, 4 November 2018 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Sam Sailor 11:18, 12 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Merge selectively to 2018 Invictus Games. While the Invictus Games are notable, this is not an elite sporting event, and I don't feel that this level of detail is justified. It doesn't really matter that this sport is one of the more prominent paralympic sports, because this isn't an article about the Paralympics. I would suggest that a table within the main article for the games showing the medallists (teams/nations, not individuals) in each event would be an appropriate level of detail to go to. --Michig (talk) 12:04, 12 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete all again, per nom. Fact is Invictus Games only really notable in host countries. Had BBC prime time coverage in its first edition in London, but nothing since for future editions. Since the inaugural Games, not even highlights on BBC iPlayer in the UK, and Prince Harry is the Patron! I'd say not notable enough to warrant sport-by-sport breakdown. JamesMatthews01 (talk) 02:48, 14 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Actually, there was a lot of coverage on the BBC this time. --Michig (talk) 07:09, 19 November 2018 (UTC)


 * Comment. I don't have any particular opinion about keep vs delete.  My only comment here is that if this is not going to be kept (as appears to be where this is going), a redirect to 2018 Invictus Games per WP:ATD would make sense.  -- RoySmith (talk) 00:11, 21 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Merge selectively to 2018 Invictus Games all items adequately referenced, since sources do exist although independent notability has not been established, then delete the text of this article and place the title on a Redirect. -The Gnome (talk) 12:48, 21 November 2018 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.