Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Whip It (Nicki Minaj song)


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The result was keep. No consensus to delete, and a uniform consensus that it meets notability (both GNG and SNG) (non-admin closure) Britishfinance (talk) 01:28, 5 January 2020 (UTC)

Whip It (Nicki Minaj song)

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I'm nominating this article for deletion as it is far from meeting the WP:NM since it has not been covered by any relevant musicians and hasn't won any significant awards. There are a couple of album reviews and no other sources that establish its notability and it takes more than that to meet the criteria, since it needs to be articles only covering the song itself. MarioSoulTruthFan (talk) 22:49, 28 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Albums and songs-related deletion discussions. MarioSoulTruthFan (talk) 23:01, 28 December 2019 (UTC)


 * Keep - the song charted on five separate national charts. I think you need to rethink your nomination process. I feel like there’s been a bunch of failed or withdrawn nominations coming from you, and now you’re kind of clogging up AFD with noms... Sergecross73   msg me  00:35, 29 December 2019 (UTC)
 * I believe you need to read WP:NM again, charts indicate that a song might be notable, not that is notable. Yes I withdrawn nominations, as those articles were made notable and I did others notable as well...your point? Not a valid argument. MarioSoulTruthFan (talk) 02:10, 29 December 2019 (UTC)
 * I’m well aware of the notability guidelines. And that’s exactly why I’m saying keep. I don’t believe it’s plausible for a song to get substantial national airplay in five separate nations, and then not have a handful sources in existence afterwards. It’s not realistic at all. It’s why one of your last nominations like this unanimously failed. There are so many bad, unsourced, non-charting song stub articles in existence. Go do something constructive and work on those, not well developed, nationally charting songs like this. Sergecross73   msg me  02:45, 29 December 2019 (UTC)
 * It doesn't seem like it. Not a valid argument, another fallacy. Yes there are, you could do the same, another fallacy. Once more, show me the sources in existance that suggest it deserves being a standalone article. MarioSoulTruthFan (talk) 02:59, 29 December 2019 (UTC)


 * Keep Extraordinarily nonsensical nomination of a song that has appeared in multiple charts, and has been reviewed in Billboard, The Guardian, and others. Nominator may wish to step into a different topic area, as music notability isn't in their wheelhouse. Zaathras (talk) 04:15, 29 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Sure it did, in album reviews "Coverage of a song in the context of an album review does not establish notability" and "Has been ranked on national or significant music or sales charts. (Note again that this indicates only that a song may be notable, not that it is notable." MarioSoulTruthFan (talk) 13:54, 29 December 2019 (UTC)


 * Speedy keep, no valid nomination rationale given. The song has received multiple non-trivial mentions and has charted in several countries. Ten Pound Hammer • (What did I screw up now?) 02:57, 31 December 2019 (UTC)
 * All mentions are in the context of album reviews. Charting does not estabilish notability. MarioSoulTruthFan (talk) 19:56, 1 January 2020 (UTC)


 * Keep. I specifically challenge the notion that charting doesn't infer notability. My reading of the consensus is that charting does confer notability. The nom reeks of WP:IDONTLIKEIT; it's a one of the filthiest ditties ever, but that's not a reason to delete. It peaked at 23 on the Billboard chart. Minaj has performed it live in large concert arenas, getting fans to sing along. A performance of the song with a boy garnered some continuing significant coverage, as has the video. The song has also become a staple of college drag shows for some bizarre reason: see here, and there, and yonder. I've linked a dozen sources that I found with a few clicks. FWIW, I'm not a fan. Bearian (talk) 22:31, 3 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Agreed. I mean, I get it if it something like charting at number 87 on one country’s single genre chart - maybe I could see some reason for skepticism there. But multiple National all-format charts? Come on. Also coming from a non-fan. Sergecross73   msg me  23:04, 3 January 2020 (UTC)
 * The only presentable articles are the Billboard and XXL, with quite narrow paragraphs on the song (1-2 lines maximum). The rest is either fancruft or trivia, as most of the songs of recent albums are performed live and once more it doesn't concurr with the notability guidelines, some random guy dancing to a song seems quite trivia to me and a performance by a non notable singer is trivia as well. I don't care if you are a fan or not, honestly doesn't add anything to the discussion. Thanks for the two links. MarioSoulTruthFan (talk) 23:45, 3 January 2020 (UTC)


 * Keep Low charting does not impress me, let alone convince me that any song should have an article, despite the vague criteria at WP:NSONG, but there's enough additional content to merit a keep based on WP:GNG. Walter Görlitz (talk) 00:38, 4 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep. All over the charts. I'm surprised it was nominated. Doctorhawkes (talk) 01:51, 4 January 2020 (UTC)


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