Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Whiskey Politics


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete.  Sandstein  18:00, 12 November 2018 (UTC)

Whiskey Politics

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Highly advertorialized article about a podcast and web series, whose claims of notability are resting on primary sources rather than reliable ones. As always, the notability test for media content is not just the ability to provide technical verification via iTunes and YouTube and its own self-published web presence that the thing exists, but rather requires it to be the subject of media coverage in sources other than itself. But the only sources here that are actually media outlets at all are not about Whiskey Politics, but simply feature the host being interviewed about some other subject besides either himself or the podcast -- which is not support for the notability of the podcast, because that "coverage" is not about the podcast. Simply nothing here, either in the body text or the references, cuts it at all under WP:NMEDIA. Bearcat (talk) 21:37, 4 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Television-related deletion discussions. Sheldybett (talk) 22:08, 4 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of United States of America-related deletion discussions. Sheldybett (talk) 22:08, 4 November 2018 (UTC)

Respectfully, we disagree with requesting "Whiskey Politics with Dave Sussman" should be deleted. This program is widely heard on multiple platforms. Also, Mr. Sussman provides long form, fair and challenging interviews of today's politicians, authors, and cultural icons on a television show under it's own name, now on America's Voice News Network, and is currently engaged in discussions to expand on other networks. The Whiskey Politics podcast also broadcasts live from multiple political and cultural conventions throughout the United States.

America's Voice News: https://americasvoicenews.com/playlist/5b157907e0405/ Freedom Fest: https://freedomfest2018.sched.com/speaker/dave_sussman.1y0qfk3y

We would ask those who are considering deleting this, kindly provide any suggestions to edit this page so the Editors will see to allow it to remain. Thank you for your time. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Candlebeach (talk • contribs) 04:05, 5 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Wikipedia does not keep articles on the basis of what the show claims about itself — we keep or delete articles on the basis of how much reliable source coverage the topic does or does not have about it in media. That is, the notability test is not "what does the show describe itself as being?" — it is "have other media outlets, not directly affiliated with it, devoted their editorial resources to doing journalism about it?" Bearcat (talk) 16:06, 5 November 2018 (UTC)


 * Delete as an unambiguous promotional effort. This article only exists to promote the show and its host, as is evident from the lightly paraphrased regurgitation of biographical blurbs, and from the PR-style response from the article's creator above. Wikipedia is not a means of promotion (see WP:NOTPROMO). Bakazaka (talk) 16:50, 5 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete As per nomination. Promotional article whose claims of notability are from primary sources. Kind Tennis Fan (talk) 23:32, 11 November 2018 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.