Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/White Like Me


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   keep. Lankiveil (speak to me) 12:14, 20 September 2009 (UTC)

White Like Me

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 * I find no significant references to this book, in a field in which I am admittedly not familiar. I discovered it on the author's Wikipedia page, flagged by an editor as self-edited.  It is cited in blogs and fringe publications, often in articles by the author.  The page may have been created to give credibility to the author's page Tim Wise, which has no reliable secondary references.   The book is cited in some scholarly publications on what I believe is called whiteness studies. If Wise or his book are actually notable, I am willing to be corrected, but it looks to me like simple self-promotion.Historicist (talk) 14:04, 10 September 2009 (UTC)

In response to this request for deletion, this is a highly regarded book in the fight for social justice and social justice education. The main page could be edited because it seems to be sloppily compiled, but there can be no question as to its credibility. This is a book that has continued to shape the field and make white Americans take a good look at their life and privilege because of their race. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 170.140.41.68 (talk) 14:44, 10 September 2009 (UTC)


 * Keep - Article needs improvement, but book seems notable. Because he writes about race issues apparently Tim Wise is a magnet for internet wackos of all stripes (like i see references to him not being "white" because he's a "jew" -- moonbat express stuff, to be sure, my reverend would say), but that is not a reason to delete the article.  Sources to be integrated could include  (Boston Globe calling the book "influential"),, ,  (book is referenced in another book, "Understanding & dismantling racism"), (review in Willamette Week).  Controversies can be summarized by citing sources.  If for some reason consensus is against book having its own article, material should certainly at least be merged into the Tim Wise article, because there are many references to him online. --Milowent (talk) 15:51, 10 September 2009 (UTC)

 Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, – Juliancolton  &#124; Talk 21:18, 17 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Uncertain the article about the author say that "His memoir, White Like Me: Reflections on Race From a Privileged Son (Soft Skull Press) is taught at hundreds of colleges and high schools across the nation." Can this be shown--it would be a sound reason to keep.    DGG ( talk ) 18:39, 10 September 2009 (UTC)
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so consensus may be reached.


 * Keep - I believe the book, in and of itself, has gained enough notability as a publication on its own merit, as shown here by Google News, and by Google Scholar, as shown here, to meet our current criteria for notability for inclusion here on Wikipedia.  Likewise, it ranks 4th in Minority Studies - 9th in Race Studies in America and 9th in Discrimination & Racism book sales based on Amazon's sales history.  To me that is notable. Thanks ShoesssS Talk 21:36, 17 September 2009 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.