Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/White supremacist support for Donald Trump


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The result was speedy delete. Speedied by as a G5. Favonian (talk) 18:46, 1 June 2016 (UTC)

White supremacist support for Donald Trump

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Well, this is a tough one to say the least. And I feel like the oncoming discussion is also likely to be a minefield. I understand that the article is neither badly written nor unsourced, and the quality of the specific citations are fine (though a maybe a few may need to be trimmed). However, I don't think that this subject is something that particularly deserves its own independent page per se. All of this information seems best described as a part of the articles that we already have on Donald Trump's 2016 campaign as well as his other things about him such as his positions. It's not just that he's said, done, and advocated things eaten up by the "alt-right" movement, but it's the overall context of who they are as well as how Trump has been blasted for his association with them; the whole picture and not just part of it.

I also hate to make an issue out of this separate matter but I feel like I kind of have to: the title may be problematic. A lot of U.S. religious conservatives say that being "white nationalist", "white separatism", "proud to be white", "alt-right", etc is not the same thing as being "white supremacist" since they claim that being gun-ho about themselves and their own heritage, against mixing it and diluting it, is different than wanting domination and to oppress others. Yes, I know that's guff, total nonsense, but that's what something like a fifth of Americans believe, sadly, and hence why, say, that one ad for Old Navy with an interracial couple got Trump supporters so outraged. They saw it specifically as an attack on them for wanting to be separate, and that perspective should have some kind of representation though only a grain. It's due some weight even if its very little, and so maybe this is better called "White nationalist support for Donald Trump" instead of what it's titled now. CoffeeWithMarkets (talk) 07:29, 1 June 2016 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Politicians-related deletion discussions. Yellow Dingo (talk) 08:00, 1 June 2016 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Politics-related deletion discussions. Yellow Dingo (talk) 08:00, 1 June 2016 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of United States of America-related deletion discussions. Yellow Dingo (talk) 08:00, 1 June 2016 (UTC)

Would it be fair to note here that there, analogously, is a Republican support for Barack Obama article? It seems reasonable to have an article about one of Trump's notable constitutencies, especially one which has garnered such an abundance of notable media coverage. One need only feast one's eyes on the paper each morning to find a new mention of the ever-expanding web of links between Trump and his white nationalist supporters; thus, this article has ample room to grow, an important consideration in my view. As for the naming issue, I have no opinion on whether we should call them "supremacists" or "nationalists." — Preceding unsigned comment added by He Comes In Peace (talk • contribs) 08:19, 1 June 2016 (UTC)


 * Keep. — Preceding unsigned comment added by He Comes In Peace (talk • contribs) 08:28, 1 June 2016 (UTC)  — He Comes In Peace (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.


 * Keep or Move. This demographic of Trump supporters has got attention in the media, it passes WP:GNG. I'm fine with White nationalist support for Donald Trump as a new name, but it seems like a WP:EUPHEMISM to me. ThePlatypusofDoom (Talk) 14:38, 1 June 2016 (UTC)
 * Keep - Passes GNG. The current article name is fine, although it looks as if it's about 50:50 in the sources cited between "nationalist" and "supremacist". shoy (reactions) 15:00, 1 June 2016 (UTC)
 * Merge to Donald Trump presidential campaign, possibly as a renamed expansion of this section. The content can be summarized in a couple of paragraphs there and copyedited to avoid its present polemical tone. - LuckyLouie (talk) 17:24, 1 June 2016 (UTC)
 * Speedy Delete Under G5 as the page is created by a likely sock of the blocked user User:Kingshowman. As a note, the user was just blocked as a sock. RickinBaltimore (talk) 18:25, 1 June 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete My first inclination was for a merge with the Donald Trump presidential campaign, but since the information of a blocked user being created by a possible sock, then a deletion of the page is in order.Whoisjohngalt (talk) 18:34, 1 June 2016 (UTC)


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