Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Whole Wheat Radio


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   keep. Ron Ritzman (talk) 01:46, 17 June 2011 (UTC)

Whole Wheat Radio

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Very nice Internet radio station, fails WP:WEB, no external coverage, no evidence it's notable except for fans. Shii (tock) 14:08, 9 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Keep Per significant external coverage in reliable sources by radio station KTNA, Anchorage Daily News, The Scope, and the Frontiersman. Additional substantial coverage was in Alaska Dispatch. The web station operated for several years, and was innovative, per the references. A couple of additional cited articles from Alaska newspapers appear not to be available online anymore. Google News archive shows 74 hits, including those I cited, some of which appear to be just directory listings or passing references, and do not contribute much to notability.  Edison (talk) 19:11, 9 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Websites-related deletion discussions.  — • Gene93k (talk) 20:10, 9 June 2011 (UTC)


 * Comment To put this in perspective, it apparently only had about a dozen listeners when it shut down. Shii (tock) 04:47, 10 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Keep: To put this in perspective, who cares? The GNG is not in any way, shape or form qualified by the popularity of a subject.  It is whether the subject is discussed in multiple, reliable, third-party sources.  This subject is, regardless of how many people were tuned in when the plug was pulled.   Ravenswing  05:26, 10 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Keep: It satisfies the notability requirements but the article has many issues and was subject to WP:PROMO concerns. If there is a source explaining the reasons for the drop in listener numbers, it would add an interesting aspect to the article. I maintain that the history, development and ultimate decline of the station is a useful resource of encyclopedic value to others who may be running or contemplating the running of a similar site. --Trevj (talk) 05:38, 10 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Comment: Which is, of course, a content dispute more properly handled on the article's talk page.  Ravenswing  04:57, 12 June 2011 (UTC)


 * Keep. The article has potential to expand as well make it better such as cleaning it up. SwisterTwister (talk) 07:13, 10 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Keep. I can't add anything which hasn't been said already.  I just wanted to point out that WikiProject Alaska has been moribund, probably for longer than I've been involved with it.  Seemingly TONS of Alaska-related articles suffer from one or more of the same problems that this article does.  The root of the problem appears to be a lack of interest in maintaining Wikipedia from within Alaska, so we're at the mercy of those who spend an inordinate amount of their time here parroting media topics (e.g. Sarah Palin, Lisa Murkowski) or pursuing personal agendas, or even those who feel it appropriate to fill pages with copied-and-pasted material from copyrighted websites.RadioKAOS (talk) 02:49, 12 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Comment. From a deletion that passed through my watchlist about 4 months ago - Kal Rudman is a media personality in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania. Quite a notable subject, to be sure.  However, the article was littered with promotional spam.  In the end, the article was deleted.  Don't say I didn't warn you.  Unfortunately, I couldn't find any evidence of the deletion process (normally the case with WP:SPEEDY, perhaps?), so I don't have a link to provide as an example.RadioKAOS (talk) 09:14, 13 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Note: This article has been nominated for rescue. Trevj (talk) 12:26, 13 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete: little depth of coverage in third-party sources, and apparently none from outside the station's immediate vicinity. The article itself appears mostly unsourced/WP:ABOUTSELF. HrafnTalkStalk(P) 17:54, 13 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Keep I agree with Edison, there are sources proving its notable. I added in a reception section to the article  quoting the president of a notable Indie music store, who recommended them as a source for indie music.   D r e a m Focus  01:37, 17 June 2011 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.