Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Why Make Clocks


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.  

The result of the debate was Keep. Stifle 14:05, 6 April 2006 (UTC)

Why Make Clocks
Non-notable band per WP:BAND, having only two albums (both of which are non-notable) and having no notable members. The article was twice deprodded by different editors (the prod tags were restored, rather than replaced by an AfD tag, due to my mistake). AmiDaniel (Talk) 23:29, 28 March 2006 (UTC)
 * Very weak keep Having originally prodded the article, I undertook to read up on the band a bit after the tag was removed, and, though I think it's a close call, the band does seem fit the notability criteria of WP:BAND. Even as the band's website has yet to include any reviews from prominent publications and even as the band gets only 729 Ghits, the band's music is available on MSN Music and Rhapsody.  It's a very close call for me, but, though the article needs a lot of work, it's a weak keep for me for now.  (Btw, for those inclined to vote keep in view of the prospective notability of two blue-linked members, the articles to which "Boonie" and "Eric Kennedy" direct are not about the musicians, and so the "member of another notable music group" criterion wouldn't seem relevant).  Joe 23:40, 28 March 2006 (UTC)
 * Why Make Clocks meets notability criteria. I posit, pursuant to WP:BAND, Why Make Clocks is notable as a musical ensemble for having met the following criteria: 1) Has gone on an international concert tour, or a national concert tour in at least one large or medium-sized country, reported in notable and verifiable sources.  See Ethos Magazine. 2) Has been featured in multiple non-trivial published works in reliable and reputable media (excludes things like school newspapers, personal blogs, etc...). See Billboard Magazine December 7th, 2002, See CMJ Jan/Feb, 2003.Brian Wiksell 05:58, 29 March 2006 (UTC)
 * Very Weak Keep. I might just be voting to keep as a result of my guilt for my impropper handling of this article and my rudeness to its creator; however, WP:NOT a paper encyclopedia, and I now believe, based upon the assertions by Brian Wiksell and Joe, that this group very marginally meets WP:BAND. I do, however, feel it somewhat inappropriate, though allowed under WP:AUTO, that this article was primarily created by a member of the band. AmiDaniel (Talk) 08:01, 29 March 2006 (UTC)
 * Weak Keep. I did not consider WP:AUTO in my creation of this article.  While I am not currently involved in the group, I was involved in the past, ergo a possible implication of bias.  A potential remedy could be to remove any reference to myself in the article.  AmiDaniel's rudeness or guilt as a result should not imply additional justification for inclusion of this article.  It should be noted that said rudeness was not interpreted as such. Brian Wiksell 20:00, 29 March 2006 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.