Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Wikimedia Foundation v. NSA


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. (non-admin closure) DavidLeighEllis (talk) 01:02, 2 September 2015 (UTC)

Wikimedia Foundation v. NSA

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This article may fall short of WP:EVENTCRIT: "Events are probably notable if they have enduring historical significance and meet the general notability guideline, or if they have a significant lasting effect." (my emphasis) This lawsuit may meet WP:GNG, but it has no historical significance or lasting effect, as it was only started in March, and as far as I know, no hearings have been held. I also question whether the sources are WP:ROUTINE, as almost all of them are dated from the 10th and 11th of March (press releases were released on the 10th). This google news search:"Wikimedia" "NSA" lawsuit, revealed very little of substance dating from after March. This lawsuit may gain some historical significance or lasting effect in the future, but for now, it is WP:TOOSOON. Quasihuman (talk • contribs) 22:31, 26 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Question: When will the lawsuits outcome be revealed? Dustin  ( talk ) 22:40, 26 August 2015 (UTC)
 * I don't think anyone can tell at this stage. According to this source, the first hearing will be on September 4th about a motion to dismiss, it could end around then if the motion is granted, or it could last for years. Quasihuman (talk • contribs) 22:57, 26 August 2015 (UTC)
 * High level legal cases are not EVENTs. WP:GNG applies (and as you accept, GNG is met).  Darmokand (talk) 13:05, 28 August 2015 (UTC)
 * You misrepresent my statement, I never accepted that GNG is met, I said: "This lawsuit may meet WP:GNG" the word "may" in that sentence is intended to imply uncertainty. You provide no evidence in the form of prior discussion, policy, or guideline that WP:EVENT does not apply to lawsuits, just the statement that they don't. Quasihuman (talk • contribs) 13:35, 28 August 2015 (UTC)
 *  Keep or Merge - There are over half a dozen sources listed for the article. If the article cannot be kept, it should be redirected with history, or merged to another article, such as Litigation involving the Wikimedia Foundation or Wikimedia Foundation. --Jax 0677 (talk) 16:54, 28 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Speedy Keep - Article is both sourced and notable. Arguments to delete are strained and unconvincing. I am, frankly, astonished by this Afd. Jus  da  fax   09:25, 29 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Speedy Keep - Agree with the argument for deletion seems like a stretch. -- Fuzheado &#124; Talk 03:04, 30 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of United States of America-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 00:44, 31 August 2015 (UTC)
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 * Speedy Keep - This is a notable case that has received significant media attention. -- Notecardforfree (talk) 23:07, 31 August 2015 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.