Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Wilfred Abse


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The result was keep. The later arguments for Keep appear to be stronger. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 05:47, 27 September 2016 (UTC)

Wilfred Abse

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Fails both WP:NACADEMICS and the WP:GNG – can't find any independent sources that mention Abse independently of his more famous relatives. "Contributed to a journal" is not a claim to notability.  IgnorantArmies  (talk)  09:01, 12 September 2016 (UTC)
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 * Keep. A GS h-index of 18 may pass WP:Prof in the field of psychology, and sources exist for WP:GNG Xxanthippe (talk).
 * WP:PROF says "Measures of citability such as the h-index, g-index, etc., are of limited usefulness in evaluating whether Criterion 1 is satisfied" (although I don't have much experience with that guideline so it may be that that part is ignored). Don't think h-index on its own is a good indicator of notability.  IgnorantArmies  (talk)  12:43, 12 September 2016 (UTC)
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 * Delete – Not notable enough. CLCStudent (talk) 17:01, 12 September 2016 (UTC)
 * Please see WP:JNN for an explanation of why that opinion will (or at least should) not be taken into account by the closer of this discussion. 86.17.222.157 (talk) 18:28, 12 September 2016 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Keep at least as WP:AUTHOR, with over a 1,000 library holdings; he's not notable for WP:PROF of course, but the holdings are enough. SwisterTwister   talk  01:35, 18 September 2016 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, — UY Scuti Talk  18:30, 19 September 2016 (UTC)
 * delete sources are about his more famous relatives and give him passing mention. Fails GNG - we don't have to beyond that.  Jytdog (talk) 03:03, 23 September 2016 (UTC)
 * Keep Source here describes Abse as a distinguished psychiatrist, a paragraph here in NPR, a brief mention here. His paper was cited by 21, this one by 11, wrote a book here printed 8 years after his death, a brief mention here, and cited here and this paper was cited by 55. A reference says equally high-achieving but very different brothers, the important psychoanalyst Wilfred Abse (1914-2005).... Meets the WP:GNG.--Tomwsulcer (talk) 20:39, 23 September 2016 (UTC)


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