Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Will Franken


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. –&#8239;Joe (talk) 12:04, 5 December 2018 (UTC)

Will Franken

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Created in 2006, didn't meet WP:GNG then or now. Note: This article was originally created as Will franken (lower-case 'f') and moved diff. The Vintage Feminist (talk) 16:21, 12 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Actors and filmmakers-related deletion discussions. The Vintage Feminist (talk) 20:38, 14 November 2018 (UTC)


 * Delete Agreed that the references provided on the page don't sustain notability. FOARP (talk)
 * Delete nothing to show Franken is notable.John Pack Lambert (talk) 04:38, 18 November 2018 (UTC)

 References  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus. Relisting comment: Discussion about the sources North America posted is needed.
 * Keep – Per WP:NEXIST and because the subject meets WP:BASIC, having received significant coverage in multiple, independent reliable sources. Below are some of those available sources from WP:BEFORE searches. Some have interview content, but also contain independent writing from their respective authors. Overall, meets WP:BASIC. North America1000 06:39, 18 November 2018 (UTC)
 * The Guardian
 * The Telegraph
 * Out
 * The Federalist
 * The Independent
 * Evening Standard

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Jovanmilic97 (talk) 10:11, 19 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Comment re: the sources above:
 * Anyone can contribute to The Federalist (see bottom of page), and their bios are written by themselves.
 * Out is a re-reporting of other articles / essays by Franken.
 * As for the rest they look to be self-publicity saying / doing outrageous things as bait for broadsheets. If this article is going to be kept then it would need a total re-write so that his notability comes from his right-wing views and the time he spent as Sarah Franken. That's where these sources take the reader, he is not notable for his comedy or acting. --The Vintage Feminist (talk) 02:15, 22 November 2018 (UTC)


 * Keep as there is enough coverage in reliable sources as identified above to pass WP:BASIC and he has received a number of notable awards Atlantic306 (talk) 21:57, 26 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Keep as what though? A notable actor? A notable satirist? A notable right-winger? Notable for transitioning and then transitioning back? The only notable award mentioned is "Best Comedian of 2005" by San Francisco Weekly but there is no citation for that. The other awards mentioned are non-notable and they do not have citations either. The article's content should be reflected in the sources and it really isn't. --The Vintage Feminist (talk) 23:29, 26 November 2018 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,  Sandstein   12:41, 27 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete on account of subject failing WP:ENTERTAINER. Subject has not had significant roles in multiple notable films, television shows, stage performances, or other productions, nor a large fan base or a significant cult following and had not made unique, prolific or innovative contributions to a field of entertainment. There are no sources that would support any of that. Most notability concerns one item, i.e. the process of the subject's change of gender and the change back. -The Gnome (talk) 17:54, 4 December 2018 (UTC)


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