Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Willem Meiners


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   merge to PublishAmerica. If it's not there, I'll port the one sentence that makes up this article over to the target. Xymmax So let it be written   So let it be done  15:37, 28 January 2009 (UTC)

Willem Meiners

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Non-notable business person.

This article was created nearly 2 years ago, and since then has remained a single-sentence unsourced stub. A search for sources turns up a lot of ghits, but these are uniformly one of the following:


 * Sales material for Meiners' many self-published books, none of which appear to me to be notable
 * Other self-published self promotion
 * Trivial mentions in sources that are about Meiners' company, PublishAmerica. While PA is notable, Meiners himself does not appear to be.

For these reasons, this article should be deleted. JulesH (talk) 11:42, 19 January 2009 (UTC)


 * Delete. (see below) No news hits, no Google hits beyond the commercial. Notability is not inherited, and while PublishAmerica is clearly notable (I still laugh when I think about Atlanta Nights), Meiners is not.  Graymornings (talk) 12:49, 19 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Merge/redirect (see below). Keep. No Google hits? Check this out--articles from between 2002 and 2008. I'm not going to rework this article to include the references (I'm a bit ashamed of my countryman), but the dude is clearly notable, IMO. Drmies (talk) 19:58, 19 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Note: I don't mind being proven wrong here. Drmies (talk) 19:58, 19 January 2009 (UTC)
 * I saw those news hits, but most of them are trivial and/or in reference to PublishAmerica. If his only claim to fame is PublishAmerica, we might want to merge/redirect instead of giving him his own article.  Graymornings (talk) 21:05, 19 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Hmmm all but the first one, yes. I think you have a point there--if merge/redirect is a motion of sorts, then I'll second, and change my vote (up, up). Drmies (talk) 22:24, 19 January 2009 (UTC)
 * I've changed mine, too—I vote merge/redirect to PublishAmerica.  Graymornings (talk) 23:33, 19 January 2009 (UTC)


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 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so consensus may be reached. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, –Juliancolton Tropical  Cyclone  02:58, 24 January 2009 (UTC)


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 * Merge to Publish America, as there is no notability outside of his relationship with his company. --Patar knight - chat/contributions 18:39, 24 January 2009 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.