Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Willem and Louis van der Merwe


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   delete. Kevin (talk) 23:37, 22 November 2009 (UTC)

Willem and Louis van der Merwe

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Contested prod. This is an article about two amateur singers. No clear evidence of notability - reaching the finals of a single competition (and failing) isn't enough. Fails WP:N andy (talk) 17:42, 14 November 2009 (UTC)
 *  Keep Undecided. Reaching the finals of a single competition is enough. Criterion 9 of WP:MUSICBIO states "Has won or placed in a major music competition." I suppose one could argue that SA's Got Talent isn't major, but if it is they are notable. J04n(talk page) 20:29, 14 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Well, first of all it's not a music competition at all. Two of the other finalists were dancers and musical ability isn't a prerequisite for entry into the competition. In any case, if you look at the other criteria in WP:MUSICBIO I think that the intention is clearly that it should be a competition that requires high professional standards - the other criteria are things such as winning a Grammy, having a charted single, writing a major theme tune or being the subject of a full-length documentary on national TV. These guys are a long way from that sort of thing. andy (talk) 00:12, 15 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Like I said it can be argued that it isn't major; I can be swayed on this, let's see how others interpret SA's Got Talent. J04n(talk page) 00:41, 15 November 2009 (UTC)

 Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Tim Song (talk) 00:16, 21 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions.  — J04n(talk page) 20:32, 14 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete Apparently SA's Got Talent is notable (it hasn't yet been deleted, proded, or marked with notability issues). An award from SA's Got Talent would presumably be counted in the "received muliple awards" category. However, these men did not win an award, have not been nominated for an award, much less multiple awards. They have not participated in multiple notable films, television shows, stage performances, or other productions.  At the moment this is a single flash-in-the-pan and not a large one at that. --Bejnar (talk) 14:50, 15 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so consensus may be reached.


 * Delete At this time, neither the subject of the article or the competition they won can be considered notable/major. I wouldn't be adverse to re-creation in the future if either of these facts (opinions?) change.  I would also defer to any South African editors who might have an opinion on how major the competition is within their country (or for e.g. anyone who could provide evidence of high viewing figures or press coverage of the competition there).  Guinness (talk) 00:34, 21 November 2009 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of South Africa-related deletion discussions.  — J04n(talk page) 03:43, 21 November 2009 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.