Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/William "Bill the Butcher" Cutting


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.  

The result was Merge and redirect --Bubba hotep 20:20, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

William "Bill the Butcher" Cutting

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Delete or Merge Non notable character. Could be merged into a list of characters of "Gangs of New York," but that's debatable. ♣ Klptyzm Chat wit' me  §   Contributions ♣ 00:19, 1 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Unbiased Keep: It doesn't seem like the character is non-notable; the character is played by an academy award-winning actor, and it seems like it is an important character. Deletion request needs more information to prove the point, if it is true. Sean MD80 talk 02:33, 1 April 2007 (UTC)


 * Not every single important character in a movie should have an article. Napoleon Dynamite is a popular movie and his article was deleted. Plus, all this article can do is list a chopped up plot summary of the "Gangs of New York" film and offer barely any biographical information about the character. ♣ Klptyzm  Chat wit' me  §   Contributions ♣ 02:45, 1 April 2007 (UTC)
 * No references demonstrating notability outside the context of the film. Merge to film article per WP:FICT. --Dhartung | Talk 02:53, 1 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Keep 22,900 Ghits. --Richard Arthur Norton (1958- ) 03:06, 1 April 2007 (UTC)


 * Like I said above, Napoleon Dynamite, I'm sure, has a large number of hits; popularity isn't notability, man. ♣ Klptyzm  Chat wit' me  §   Contributions ♣ 03:16, 1 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Also, google hits don't mean jack crap. ♣ Klptyzm  Chat wit' me  §   Contributions ♣ 03:18, 1 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Merge if there is anything worth keeping, otherwise just redirect. He only  appears in a single work, and there's nothing to write about him besides a portion of the plot summary for the work. Night Gyr (talk/Oy) 04:49, 1 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Merge or Redirect per Night Gyr. From the guideline Notability (fiction): Major characters in a work of fiction should be covered within the article on that work of fiction. If an encyclopedic treatment of such a character causes the article on the work itself to become long, then that character can be given a separate article. This character is not covered in the main work (Gangs of New York) at all. --maclean 05:02, 1 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Merge to the main article. Realkyhick 05:34, 1 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Merge per manual. Metamagician3000 07:24, 3 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Redirect to William Poole- the arguments about his being a fictional character are wrong (Herbert Asbury's "Gangs of New York" is a nonfiction book), and although Scorsese changed his name for the film, Bill the Butcher was a notable character in real life who already has his own article. -  irides centi   (talk to me!)  17:41, 4 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Except the article is about the fictional character who was based on him, not the real person. We wouldn't redirect a Shakespearean character to the real-life counterpart, we redirect it to the work whose article would document the character. Night Gyr (talk/Oy) 09:14, 5 April 2007 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.