Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/William Aalto


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The result was   keep. (non-admin closure) Ron Ritzman (talk) 00:20, 3 October 2008 (UTC)

William Aalto

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Delete Not sufficiently notable per WP:BIO. Not every soldier is notable enough for their own article. This soldier seems to have received no major awards and is not the primary subject of any reliable sources. Ave Caesar (talk) 22:34, 28 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep A bit more notable than the average soldier. There's plenty of information available about him:, . He's even mentioned in a poem by James Schuyler: . (It is the same guy, in case anyone is wondering. Zagalejo^^^ 23:26, 28 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Weak keep Same as above. I'm not sure the poem is much as a RS, though as the poetis notable it can be mentioned in the article.. DGG (talk) 01:30, 29 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Strong keep This is a notable soldier: to quote Heather Graham's book The Spanish Civil War: A Very Short Introduction, Oxford University Press, 2005, p. 53. "Bill Aalto... participated in an important commando raid that constitutes the only operation of its kind ever undertaken by the Spanish army". Republican Spanish military sources quote him as the leader of this operation, "Se nombra al Jefe de la expedición: El Teniente Bill.": "The Leader of the expedition is named: Lieutenant Bill". In addition, his guerrilla activities in Teruel together with Irving Goff and Alex Kunslich are considered to be the inspiration for Hemingway's novel, For Whom the Bell Tolls. ref: Carroll, Peter N. The Odyssey of the Abraham Lincoln Brigade. Stanford University Press, 1994, p. 167. Finally it appears that someone is writing a screenplay about him, entitled The Bill Aalto Story. As I am also writing about Aalto's guerrilla operation at Motril, that makes two of us.--Redsur (talk) 12:49, 29 September 2008 (UTC)
 * None of these things establish notability per WP:BIO. He was not the primary subject of any reliable sources nor is Wiki a crystal ball. --Ave Caesar (talk) 21:54, 29 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Regardless, we can still gather together enough information to write a decent-sized article. I don't see the need to delete this. Zagalejo^^^ 00:28, 30 September 2008 (UTC)


 * Question Does anyone know if Aalto was responsible for training the Ritchie Boys?--Redsur (talk) 14:31, 29 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep As per everyone but the nominator. Notablity is asserted, Zagalejo and Redsur show clear examples of independant sourcing. Edward321 (talk) 23:07, 29 September 2008 (UTC)


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