Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/William Bennett (oboist)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   no consensus. J04n(talk page) 21:16, 10 March 2013 (UTC)

William Bennett (oboist)

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Mr. Bennett has only received coverage due to his untimely death. no other individual symphony musicians have articles, or even a mention at the article, this is not the person to start with, and we are not a memorial site, or a news site. Mercurywoodrose (talk) 19:21, 3 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Delete Agreed. This is a BLP1E, where the unfortunate event was his collapse on stage which led to his death. -- ShinmaWa(talk) 20:17, 3 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of California-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 01:57, 4 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 01:57, 4 March 2013 (UTC)

--jrgsf — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jrgsf (talk • contribs) 00:18, 5 March 2013 (UTC)
 * As someone who researches about musicians for my job, I disagree. Although possibly not a famous enough musician to warrant his own article, a stub is helpful to distinguish this oboist William Bennett from the much more famous flautist of the same name (not to mention the even-more-famous politician). Deleting this article will add unnecessarily to the confusion, since it would not be out of the question for them to be the same individual. Apologies if these comments are not formatted correctly. Jrgsf 00:18, 5 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Thats what William Bennett (disambiguation) is for, but its only for people notable enough for articles or article sections. There are probably hundreds more William Bennetts, we dont include them in this disambiguation page. If you want to add a section to the SF symphony article about notable musicians, and include this man, we can have his name redirect from the disambig page to the sf symphony article section.Mercurywoodrose (talk) 02:12, 5 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Comment There is a very outside chance that the subject might meet WP:GNG. Searching on slightly more useful variants of the article title (for instance, or ) produces several dozen GNews hits scattered over the last forty years, though a large majority of them are behind paywalls and most are almost certain to be passing mentions in reviews of San Francisco Symphony concerts. However, a few mention that John Harbison wrote an oboe concerto about twenty years ago, commissioned by the San Francisco Symphony but with Bennett specifically in mind. While none of this comes close to guaranteeing notability, there is enough to suggest some possibility of a couple of substantial reliable sources behind those paywalls. PWilkinson (talk) 19:02, 5 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Weak Keep, subject appears to have received mention in multiple non-primary reliable sources (including books); many of the sources are behind paywalls therefore I cannot verify whether the articles have the subject of this AfD as its primary subject (which some appear to do) and whether that coverage adds up to be significant coverage. I will assume good faith regarding those articles which I cannot view, and unless shown otherwise assume those articles give the subject of this AfD significant coverage.--RightCowLeftCoast (talk) 03:14, 6 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Keep, Stronger version of RightCowLeftCoast's reasoning as I have had too much experience with such sites behind pay-locked doors.  Possibly this has had a certain bend of my mind, but until someone fetches back the word from (e.g.) Groves, I'll request to keep the article.  Cheers, Drieux 06:09, 6 March 2013 (UTC)  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Drieux (talk • contribs)
 * There is no entry for this William Bennett in Grove Music Online, but they do have a higher bar for inclusion than we do. Phil Bridger (talk) 07:50, 10 March 2013 (UTC)


 * Merge and redirect to William Bennett (disambiguation). Stuartyeates (talk) 02:54, 10 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, —JmaJeremy  ✆  ✎  21:05, 10 March 2013 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.